Hi Annie, Found this on IGI on family seaarch site

James <Nutter>
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 03 SEP 1815 St Bartholomew'S, Colne, Lancashire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: John Nutter Family
Mother: Betty


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C393682 Film 

Found it mistranscribed as Mutter

1901 England Census
about Walter Mutter
Name: Walter Mutter
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth A
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England (Lancashire, England), Lancashire (Lancashire), England

Civil Parish: Nelson
Ecclesiastical parish: Little Marsden St Paul
County/Island: Lancashire (Lancashire)
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Burnley
Sub-registration district: Nelson
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth A Mutter 24
Elsie L Mutter 1
Walter Mutter 26

Hi Gloria

Tell me what you think about his Nutter! LOL

Richard & Margaret (Riley?) lived in Hibson Houses in 1941, They seem to match the name pattern down the line ie Richard 1st born son, Margaret 1st born daughter etc. I think that they might be James Nutter b. 1816 parents?

Annie

Hi Annie, I have looked for the 1841 you mention with Richard and Margaret but cannot see them. I have seen lots of Nutters all with the same names, and same names for children, so it is not going to be easy.

Is this James, Martha and family in 1851. Living in the Weslyan Chapel Little Marsden. James is a warp dresser.

Name Age
Ann Nutter 13
Barbara Nutter 9
James Nutter 36
Luke Nutter 2 Mo
Mark Nutter 5
Martha Nutter 32
Mary Nutter 14
Richard Nutter 11
Thomas Nutter 7
William Nutter 3

Gloria

Hi Gloria

Yes, it's the same family & I have only just found a ref. to them in 1841 living in Hibson Houses (not 1941 - silly me!) on Originsnetwork.com. The site seems to have a pretty comprehensive 1841 census. Never found them on Ancestry.com

It was in this same census that I found Richard & Margaret living in Hibson Houses. Not quite sure where that was but I guess it was Hibson Road area, St. Paul's.

I am off to the library today to see what I can find from Parish Registers. Wish me  luck!

Thanks for your help.

Annie

I have never used that website, always use ancestry, thought they had them all but obviously not. What do you get on it and how much is it.

Enjoy your trip to the library, which one do you use? I have been to Burnley a few times and Nelson once. It is easier for me to go to the records office in Preston.

Just had a quick look at the site Gloria. At first glance they have a good collection. They also have Irish. Subscriptions start from £7.50 for 72 hours access to all that they have. Or you can break it down and access British only or Irish only for slightly less. Annual total access is £34.50. I've only just renewed with ancestry but I think I will give this site some serious thought.

This is their British origins collection......

Census records
England & Wales Census 1841
Counties: Bedfordshire, Buckinghamshire, Cambridgeshire, Cheshire, Cornwall, Derbyshire, Devon, Dorset, Essex, Glamorgan, Gloucestershire (includes Bristol and its suburbs), Herefordshire, Hertfordshire, Huntingdonshire, Lancashire, Leicestershire, Lincolnshire, Middlesex, Monmouthshire, Norfolk, Northamptonshire, Nottinghamshire, Oxfordshire, Rutland, Shropshire, Somerset, Staffordshire, Suffolk, Surrey, Warwickshire, Wiltshire, Worcestershire and Yorkshire. See County Map and Counts

England & Wales Census 1861 over 20 million names and images

England & Wales Census 1871
Counties: Cornwall, Devon, Dorset, Glamorgan, London-Kent, London-Middlesex, London-Surrey, Middlesex (ex. Metropolitan area), Norfolk, Staffordshire, Surrey (ex. Metropolitan area), Wiltshire, Worcestershire. See County Map and Counts


Marriage records
Boyds Marriage Index 1538-1840 over 7 million names

Marriage Licence Allegations Index 1694-1850 over 670,000 names


Wills records
Bank of England Will Extracts Index 1717-1845 over 61,000 names

Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills Index 1750-1800 over 208,000 names

Archdeaconry Court of London Wills Index 1700-1807 over 5,000 names

York Medieval Probate Index 1267-1500 over 10,000 wills

York Peculiars Probate Index 1383-1883 over 25,000 wills

Prerogative & Exchequer Courts of York Probate Index 1853-1858 over 16,000 grants of probate


Apprenticeship records
London Apprenticeship Abstracts 1442-1850 over 300,000 names

Apprentices of Great Britain 1710-1774 about 350,000 indentures


Court records
London Consistory Court Depositions Index 1700-1713 over 3,200 names

Inheritance Disputes Index 1574-1714 over 26,000 lawsuits

Charles I Chancery Index 1625-1649 82,000 cases


Burial records
Boyd's London Burials Index 1538-1853 over 300,000 names


Militia records
Militia Attestations Index 1886-1910 over 29,000 names


Passenger Lists
British & Irish Passenger Lists 1890 over 100,000 names


General records and images
Boyd's Inhabitants of London 1270-1927

Teachers’ Registrations 1870-1948 100,000 names

Trinity House Calendars 1787-1854 6,500 names

England & Wales Gazetteer published 1895

England & Wales Gazetteer Maps & Plans published 1895 All counties

British Origins Library (8 collections, 18th & 19th centuries)

Gloria - if there's anything you want me to look up in Origins - just ask. Back at work on Thursday but I 'm usually busy with family tree on here at weekends, but I will reply asap.

I've transcribed what I got from Colne library but I omitted a couple of facts  in my efforts to get it all down in the time I had! There were quite a few people researching their family trees and all wanting the same books!

I got:- Local Nutters from Parochial Chapelry of Colne Baptisms 1734-1774, & 1790-1812.

Male Nutters from Colne Parish Marriages 1754-1812 (I had most from IGI but they don't give occupations) but then neither did the earlier parish entries!

I hope to return tomorrow to clear up a few details. Once I have finished I will put them up on the site for others to look at if they want , but they need some more work yet.

If you're interested I will send you what I have at the mo?

Annie

Hello Annie!   I went digging through my Barrowford Nutters to see what I could find for you as your names looked familiar.   Sadly...they must have gone into the 'discard pile' as I was researching, as they are not the same as mine.  However, the rummage through the box of papers was profitable, as I found a stack of handwritten histories and family trees that I had copied and packed the last time I was camping at Nelson library.   I had forgotten about them until I stumbled upon them tonight!    They appear to be handwritten documents from a Mrs Briggs and a Doreen Crowther, and they both have bits of my Barrowford Nutter line referenced.  

Does anyone have any other material (like a typed transcription perhaps?) of these documents or know of these two historians?   I can scan and post if anyone is interested, but my copies are rather hard to read.   I'm particularly interested as there are bits with my line going back to Wm Nutter (b 1775ish, married Eliz/Betty Manley, parents to John b 24-3-1799), and then farther back references to the bewitching Alice...now that would be quite a discovery!!!   Need to spend some time transcribing these if it hasn't been done already. 

Then the question arises....can  you take someone else's research as 100% accurate? 

Cheers!

Deb...

Right on Stanley.

By coincidence Sylvia was at Pendle Heritage Centre yesterday afternoon talking to Fay when a woman brought in a large box full of documents. "We didn't want to throw these away so I have brought them here for safekeeping" - they were some of Doreen Crowther's original documents from her local research. The box has now disappeared into the bowels of the Malt Kiln! However, Fay has said that I can peruse the docs so all is not lost.

Deb, please scan and post whatever you can. The subject of the Dam Head Nutters and their descendants requires as much interaction between record holders as possible to begin to make sense of it.