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A gentle reminder to avoid tipping points!...
`Climate change: Six tipping points ‘likely’ to be crossed' LINK
Note in particular: Co-author Ricarda Winkelmann, a researcher at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research and a member of the Earth Commission, said: "Importantly, many tipping elements in the Earth system are interlinked, making cascading tipping points a serious additional concern."

These cascade effects are well-known to geologists from the history in the rocks.
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That came as no surprise Peter to anyone who has been watching the lack of progress. Basically the scientists are saying that we have failed in our stewardship of the planet and there are no signs anything is about to change. Once again James Lovelock is right, he said a while ago it was too late. Sometimes I am glad I'm old but I look at my great grandchildren and fear for what they will experience.....
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Exceptional storms, one in Alaska and a typhoon in Southern Japan are said to be the worst for decades reinforce once more that the climate is changing.
Where are the deniers now? They were so sure they were right.....
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See THIS BBC report of the super typhoon Nanmadol that is hitting Japan over the weekend reminds us that there are advantages to having a moderate Atlantic based climate. 20 inches of rain in 24 hours is serious stuff and then there are the winds to contend with.
At the moment we are having a quiet transition into winter. We should be thankful and not complain!
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The nights are drawing in and the temperature is gradually dropping. Meanwhile the threat of higher energy prices is making people think twice about having the light on while watching the TV or better still moving the TV to the kitchen where its warmer. Shouts of 'close that door' and threats of docking kids spending money for leaving lights on will be back on the cards. Of course allowing the energy companies to make totally unjustified profits is part of the governments unpublished master plan for reducing global warming and to misquote Shakespeare its not for an ace but for all time. Borrowing money to give to the energy companies which incidentally will be paid for by the public but sold to the gullible as a reduction in bills for our everlasting benefit negotiated by the Tories is probably the biggest con trick since the benefit of Brexit,
As Mike Tyson says "everybody has a plan until they get smacked in the face". lets hope that this smack in the face will waken people up to what this government is up to.
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It hasn't done so in the past Ken. The sheep still keep voting of the Tories who perpetrate the same con-tricks over and over again.
But back to climate change. I don't think it's fanciful to say that we are now over some sort of tipping point and exceptional events are almost becoming the norm! Overall, our version seems to be warmer winters overall. That may be quite a valuable asset this winter! (Mind you, the bastards will take the standing charges come what may.)
What I am not clear about is this. Truss says she is suspending 'climate levies' if I understand her correctly. Aren't these levies part of the standing charges the energy providers charge? If so does this mean that the charges will decrease?
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This is bad news for the climate - methane is 80 times more effective at global warming than CO2. It's climate terrorism...
`Nord Stream: Ukraine accuses Russia of pipeline terror attack' LINK
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What other explanation fits the bill? The world has gone mad.
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I'll bet the companies don't declare this in the Environmental and Social Governance sections of their annual reports...
`Big oil's toxic emissions from flaring undeclared' LINK
`Major oil companies are not declaring a significant source of greenhouse gas emissions, a BBC News investigation has revealed. The BBC found millions of tonnes of undeclared emissions from gas flaring at oil fields where BP, Eni, ExxonMobil, Chevron and Shell work.'...
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It struck me yesterday that there may be a clue in the description given to Hurricane Ian which has just hit Florida.
It was described as 'a 500 year event'.
But somehow I doubt if it will be 500 years before there is one to match it.
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Not happy with my name being associated with a killer Hurricane! I know they do them in alphabetical order and if they wanted a blokes name it would have been more appropriate to call it Ivan under the present world circumstance.
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But Ian, your birth was a billion year event - there hasn't been one identical to you before! :laugh5:
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Indeed but it does sound weird having your name all over the national news.

I have often wondered why they attribute names to them, why not just an incrementing number. H235 or similar followed by H236 etc would be fine.
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I doubt if you will be able to change it Ian.
Are there any climate change deniers left?
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Stanley wrote: 01 Oct 2022, 02:09 Are there any climate change deniers left?
No, they all metamorphosed into Brexiteers, Truss supporters, anti-vaxers and flat-earthers. :extrawink:
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PanBiker wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 16:20 Indeed but it does sound weird having your name all over the national news.

I have often wondered why they attribute names to them, why not just an incrementing number. H235 or similar followed by H236 etc would be fine.
Of course if it were truly a rare event it would be Iain with two eyes
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"No, they all metamorphosed into Brexiteers, Truss supporters, anti-vaxers and flat-earthers."
That's a very persuasive theory Peter! One wonders how anyone could maintain that position in the face of the evidence we are getting. Time after time we hear phrases like "the worst in living memory" or, as in the case of Hurricane Ian; "a 500 year event". And we still collectively do stupid things like have a war that leads to a reaction where fossil fuels have to be used to survive. We'll be re-opening coal mines next......
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Now Truss has `ordered' our climate-aware King Charles not to attend the COP meeting in Egypt where he had been expected to make a major speech. Is this an indication of the Truss government's attitude on the importance of countering climate change?
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I don't believe the hype over the alleged orders to the King. Chuck had already said he realised that being monarch was a different ball game. He knows which side his bread is buttered. He will not want to rock any boats as he enters his tenure as monarch.
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But I wonder how long he can resist the temptation? :extrawink: He probably knows and understands more about climate and the environment than most of our politicians.
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We shall see but I doubt if he will allow anything to come between him and his view of how monarchy should be exercised. He has suggested he is seeking reform and 'slimming down'. We have yet to see that.
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I think he has worked out that Not Going says a lot about the government, more than if he went and said words of any kind.
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Many people won't care whether there are glaciers on Kilimanjaro or not but if it does happen they'll certainly know about it because they'll have experienced a lot of trouble closer to home by then...
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Are you thinking of the situation with the Alps and the Himalayas Peter?
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Partly that but also everything else that will come with that level of climate change and will be felt locally. More and worse floods, wildfires, crop failures and much more migration of populations. We're already seeing increasing loss of snow and ice, which means less reflection of solar heat and greater warming of the darker sea and rock. Evidence from the geological past shows that leads to runaway heating and desertification.
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