DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
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DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
Just used the word 'scudding' in a post and realised we need to get this popular topic on the road again.
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Doc is agait and thronged. He's getting t'band in't nick again.
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Pluggy ran into Heather in town square. Is this universal, same as 'bumped into'?
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What about "thrutching" as in trying to have a movement when constipated ?, just thought i'd get to the bottom of things
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That's Bodger, getting down to the fundament-als again!
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Or a big effort when trying to push or move something. Not mentioned in Webster or Collins but it definitely exists.
Found this on web: thrutch/θrʌtʃ/
▶noun N. English a narrow gorge or ravine. ▶verb chiefly Climbing push, press, or squeeze into a space.
– origin OE, of W. Gmc origin.
Found this on web: thrutch/θrʌtʃ/
▶noun N. English a narrow gorge or ravine. ▶verb chiefly Climbing push, press, or squeeze into a space.
– origin OE, of W. Gmc origin.
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Used 'mither' this morning in a post. We've covered it before but it occurred to me that there is a holding called Mither Close in Bracewell to the west of Stock. I wonder what that is rooted in.
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Re thrutching - my dad used this word in connection with babies filling their nappies, and of course sometimes their top end would be posseting!
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http://www.lakelanddialectsociety.org/d ... _saxon.htm
Totally unsure how to post a web link (previously let alone now) however as some of my folks are from the lakes I have an interest and so do have a look at this website for words and origins. I won't bore you with any examples - just go there.
Totally unsure how to post a web link (previously let alone now) however as some of my folks are from the lakes I have an interest and so do have a look at this website for words and origins. I won't bore you with any examples - just go there.
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Jules for someone who was unsure how to do it you did well!
Not too sure whether the following id dialect or just common usage. I heard a man on R4 describing buying a new pair of shoes that he described as 'Gangster Shoes', he meant the ones with contrasting black and white leather. I have heard these described as 'Child-Botherer's shoes', anyone come across that one? Just remembered that my old sergeant once told us that 'Brothel-Creepers' weren't allowed as part of civilian dress if you were going out of barracks at night. He meant the current vogue in the 1950s for shoes with very thick, soft, latex rubber soles.
Not too sure whether the following id dialect or just common usage. I heard a man on R4 describing buying a new pair of shoes that he described as 'Gangster Shoes', he meant the ones with contrasting black and white leather. I have heard these described as 'Child-Botherer's shoes', anyone come across that one? Just remembered that my old sergeant once told us that 'Brothel-Creepers' weren't allowed as part of civilian dress if you were going out of barracks at night. He meant the current vogue in the 1950s for shoes with very thick, soft, latex rubber soles.
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I think you mean "crepe soles" - beloved of the Teddy Boys in the 1950's
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I think the teddy girls would be most insulted by that.tripps wrote:I think you mean "crepe soles" - beloved of the Teddy Boys in the 1950's
However from my recollections it would be pretty apposite in many instances.
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A big argument I have with my friends is the name for a "Bread Roll" There are so many variations, but none of them call them T-Cakes or Butty
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I vaguely recall a similar discussion in the early days of the old site, so it’s nice to bring the subject back up again, Twinkletoes.
It was always teacakes and currant teacakes round here, although when I moved to Manchester I learned to call them barm cakes. In Ashton-under-Lyne they’re muffins.
No doubt a long list will follow from other members!
It was always teacakes and currant teacakes round here, although when I moved to Manchester I learned to call them barm cakes. In Ashton-under-Lyne they’re muffins.
No doubt a long list will follow from other members!
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Is it barm or balm ?
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Definitely the former. Balm would be a bit too posh for Manky.
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David, yes but made from latex rubber. Balm or Barm, it's all yeast. Oven bottom cakes as well? Most modern name I have come across is 'frisbees' for the larger ones used to take a full breakfast. A good start to an outside job on a cold day. When I was working at Rochdale Welding that was always the first job as we arrived on site on a cold morning, find the nearest butty shop and get a Frisbee!
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as anybody heard this before?,
another expression i recall in Sheffield for going down to the Wicker (part of SHEFFIELD)
"tha gus dahn to twicker to weer twatter runs oer tweer in tDon"
another expression i recall in Sheffield for going down to the Wicker (part of SHEFFIELD)
"tha gus dahn to twicker to weer twatter runs oer tweer in tDon"
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The bit of dialect I remember best is the trouble I got into in Accrington one day before I realised that 'who' meant 'he'. "Who's pinched my hammer" meant something completely different than what I understood. Not sure I ever heard that in Barlick.
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I understood it to be generally spelled “hoo” and meant “she”. I suppose it could have referred to a “he” but I only ever heard it used by and of my elderly female millworking relatives when I was a child. So definitely used in Barlick but probably not in recent (ie 50) years?
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I'd always thought 'hoo' referred to either gender, but now you mention it - it's usually female. Perhpas that's because the men do more of the writing? That'll be today's project then.....
Here's an example from Edwin Waugh's poem.
When aw put little Sally to bed,
Hoo cried, 'cose her feyther weren't theer,
So aw kiss's the' little thing, an' aw said
Thae'd bring her a ribbin fro' th' fair;
An' aw gave' her her doll, an' some rags,
An' a nice little white cotton-bo';
An' aw kiss'd her again; but hoo said
'At hoo wanted to kiss thee an' o.
Here's an example from Edwin Waugh's poem.
Hoo cried, 'cose her feyther weren't theer,
So aw kiss's the' little thing, an' aw said
Thae'd bring her a ribbin fro' th' fair;
An' aw gave' her her doll, an' some rags,
An' a nice little white cotton-bo';
An' aw kiss'd her again; but hoo said
'At hoo wanted to kiss thee an' o.
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I never thought about the spelling as I thought he was saying 'who'. Thinking back, it was 52 years ago so coincides with Ian's estimate. (God. I must be getting old!)
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not neccessary dialect, but some lovely old words
http://books.google.ie/books?vid=OCLC61 ... ker&f=true
http://books.google.ie/books?vid=OCLC61 ... ker&f=true
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The Hoo is interesting in the poem above as it doesn't seem to be used to consistantly, there is a 'her' in the middle of the line..some sort of grammar rule about Her opening a sentence or bing in place of She? They still say Hoo for her in Catherine Cookson films...very North East!
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Indeed you must - I think it was my estimate not Ian’s. ButStanley wrote:Thinking back, it was 52 years ago so coincides with Ian's estimate. (God. I must be getting old!)
They still obviously use the dialect word ‘hoo’ at Burnley FC - big girls the lot of ‘em... From Barnoldswick & Earby Times 9 Feb 2012
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