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Post by Tizer » 03 Jun 2017, 11:07

As I was writing on OG at about 11.45 today I heard a prop aircraft flying over slowly. Looked out and wasn't sure of ID so grabbed a pair of bins. A Catalina! Going south-west, presumably doing a display somewhere. Lovely! :cool4:

Later...looked up Catalina PBY-5A and found that's it's appearing at the Torbay Air Show, Paignton, Devon, 3-4 June 2017.

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Post by Stanley » 04 Jun 2017, 03:20

The Catalina and Sunderland flying boats were invisible assets during the war because they spent all their time out at sea doing anti-submarine and rescue work. I have never seen either of them.....
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Post by Tizer » 04 Jun 2017, 11:13

Our holiday last week was at Praa Sands, Cornwall. In 2013 a memorial was erected to the crew of a Sunderland that crashed on the beach in WW2 after being attacked by 8 German fighters.... LINK

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Post by Stanley » 05 Jun 2017, 03:37

They would have been easy prey, slow and only lightly armed. Poor buggers.....
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Post by Tizer » 06 Jun 2017, 08:58

Not such easy prey as you might think. Wikipedia says: "Although the .303 guns lacked range and hitting power, the Sunderland had a considerable number of them and it was a well-built machine that was hard to destroy. On 3 April 1940, a Sunderland operating off Norway was attacked by six German Junkers Ju 88C fighters. It shot one down, damaged another enough to send it off to a forced landing and drove off the rest. The Germans are reputed to have nicknamed the Sunderland the Fliegendes Stachelschwein ("Flying Porcupine") due to its defensive fire power." LINK

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Post by Stanley » 07 Jun 2017, 03:42

I stand corrected Tiz!
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Post by Tripps » 10 Jul 2017, 09:46

The Red Arrows flew very low over my house yesterday, and switched the white smoke on just for me - I told myself. :smile:

Now it appears that all did not go exactly to plan. . .Near miss
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Post by Stanley » 11 Jul 2017, 03:09

It makes you wonder how long these ancient planes can be maintained .......
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Post by PanBiker » 11 Jul 2017, 08:07

Indefinitely, as long as there are parts available or the skills to make them, according to the flight maintenance engineers at Coningsby where the BBMF is based. They have original engineers drawings for the aircraft and at the end of the day they are only machines. The Spitfire recovered from the mud at Dunkirk referred to in another thread only had about 15% of the airframe and not much else left. Many warbird recoveries are in similar condition but can be put back to air worthiness where there is a will, and a lot of money.
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Post by Tripps » 11 Jul 2017, 11:39

Stanley wrote:
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It makes you wonder how long these ancient planes can be maintained ......
PanBiker wrote:
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Indefinitely, as long as there are parts available or the skills to make them
We're getting close to Trigger's Broom :smile:
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Post by Stanley » 12 Jul 2017, 03:56

Exactly David........
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Post by Tizer » 23 Jul 2017, 08:19

Like Eric Winkle Brown, another pilot who learned to fly before joining the RAF and survived because of being experienced. He's described as being very lucky - but another view is he and Winkle Brown `made their own luck'.
`James 'Ginger' Lacey: Battle of Britain pilot remembered' LINK

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Post by Stanley » 24 Jul 2017, 03:55

I've always thought that you make a lot of what people call 'luck'. With machines it's called maintenance and preparation.
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Re: Winged Heroes

Post by Tizer » 02 Aug 2017, 08:24

Some great old B&W photos here of test flights of experimental aircraft....
`US space pioneers' hair-raising test flights' LINK

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Re: Winged Heroes

Post by Stanley » 03 Aug 2017, 02:34

It takes special men to do things like that, not my cup of tea!
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