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Re: Winged Heroes

Posted: 07 Apr 2018, 03:58
by Stanley
Fascinating article.......
On the subject of weight carrying.... One of the facts I found in Taylor's 'Dresden' was that on the longest missions, the B17 Flying Fortress could only carry about 3 tons of bombs, far less than the Lancaster. The Lancaster of course eventually carried the ten ton Grand Slam bomb. Something no other aircraft could have carried.

Re: Winged Heroes

Posted: 29 Apr 2018, 09:38
by Tizer
After Mrs Tiz's trip to Naples, Herculaneum, Pompeii, Vesuvius etc I was reminded of the photo shown below in on of my aviation books. Vesuvius erupted in March 1944 and caused havoc for the US 340th Bomber Group who were stationed at Pompeii airfield. Reportedly:
`The volcano destroyed more of the 340th Bombardment Group's aircraft (estimates vary between 78 and 88) than the devastating German Luftwaffe air raid of the 340th base at Alesani, Corsica on May 13, 1944 (about 75 aircraft). At Pompeii Airfield on March 23, 1944 nearly all of the 340th's B-25 Mitchell medium bombers were covered with hot ash that burned the fabric control surfaces, glazed, melted, or cracked the Plexiglass, and even tipped some B-25s onto their tails from the weight of the ash and tephra. No lives were lost at Pompeii Airfield and the only casualties in the 340th were a sprained wrist and a few cuts, but the effects of the volcano on the aircraft proved insurmountable despite a major effort by the 12th Air Force to repair and salvage the damaged planes.'

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This photo shows how the US airmen felt about Vesuvius afterwards!
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Many more photos of the effects at the airfield are available on this web page: The Mount Vesuvius Eruption of March 1944

Re: Winged Heroes

Posted: 30 Apr 2018, 03:30
by Stanley
The whole of that post was completely new to me! Thanks Tiz for looking in a forgotten corner.

Re: Winged Heroes

Posted: 11 Jun 2018, 09:22
by Tizer
There's a touch of unintended irony in the last photo showing a man dressed in, I presume, RAF Regiment uniform guarding a 1950s English Electric Lightning - on this same day the RAF is being criticised because plane spotters showed that the batch of new Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II are on display and vulnerable to saboteurs and spies at RAF Marham, Norfolk.

`In pictures: Red Arrows soar at Cosford Air Show's RAF centenary' LINK

Re: Winged Heroes

Posted: 12 Jun 2018, 03:05
by Stanley
I heard that report as well Tiz.....

Re: Winged Heroes

Posted: 23 Jun 2018, 15:07
by Tizer
We've just had the RAF Memorial Flight fly past us going south-west at low altitude, glinting in the sun: the Spitfire and Hurricane, followed by the Lancaster and then the Dakota with its D-Day stripes. A lovely sight! I looked at the schedule and they've displayed at Bicester earlier today then at Weston-Super-Mare at 15.30. They're due at the same locations again tomorrow so maybe they'll stay overnight down here and return past us again tomorrow in the opposite direction.

Re: Winged Heroes

Posted: 24 Jun 2018, 03:38
by Stanley
I've only seen them once at very low altitude one morning at Ellenroad. I have never forgotten it......

Re: Winged Heroes

Posted: 24 Jun 2018, 09:13
by PanBiker
We have had them all over Barlick at one time or another, including the two remaining Lancasters at the same time. I heard it but just missed seeing the Spitfire that overflew Barlick yesterday. Sounded like the Rolls griffon engined variant which often visits when its up.

Re: Winged Heroes

Posted: 25 Jun 2018, 04:30
by Stanley
Bugger! I love the sound of that engine.....

Re: Winged Heroes

Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 06:33
by Stanley
See THIS for a BBC report of the death of Squadron Leader Wellum, the youngest Spitfire pilot in WW2.

Re: Winged Heroes

Posted: 24 Jul 2018, 05:49
by Stanley
News coming in that Scampton, the air base in Lincolnshire which was the base for the Dambusters, is now the home of the Red Arrows and also has the air control network that watches over intrusion of our air space, is to be closed..... (LINK)

Re: Winged Heroes

Posted: 24 Jul 2018, 10:04
by Tizer
The Government has a list of airfields planned for closure announced back in April but Scampton wasn't on it. Perhaps added since. It's worth noting that the US DoD had its own list of 15 air bases which it planned to close in Europe in 2023, including Mildenhall, but now it has reconsidered in the light of increasing security issues in Europe. A review is under way.

Re: Winged Heroes

Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 03:04
by Stanley
Nothing is safe Tiz as the Tories look after the money for us by slipping it in their back pockets.......

Re: Winged Heroes

Posted: 26 Jul 2018, 06:41
by Stanley
See THIS for news of the death of Mary Ellis, the last of the women pilots who flew new planes into airfields as members of the ATA in WW2. She was 101 years old.