LTP2013. FIRST IMPRESSIONS OF THE PROJECT

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I'll have a crack at downloading the complete project when I have finished my morning communications!
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I downloaded the complete project and unzipped it successfully in just over ten minutes. I have a question, I have looked at the transcripts but the images aren't embedded. Have I missed something?
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They never have been Stanley. The only place the images are embedded is in the mined code.

Transcripts were uploaded to the dev site then the images to the gallery. Images then added to the posts in the normal way and the data set mined, uploaded to the server and then linked into the live site.

If they were to be in the Word or Open Office docs we would have to repeat the exercise with each of the transcripts. We would end up with some very large file to contend with as well.
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So this download is as good as it gets? No problem, I can always direct the punters to the site but I just want to be sure before I engage the process of making people aware.
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If we distributed the mined code instead it would have to go on a DVD, it would need some kind of front end launcher writing to launch the project. Running it from DVD would entail any machine thrashing about somewhat to retrieve the data from the disc and it would be rather slow navigating. As the data set references what is essentially a mirror of what is on the live site, any internet enabled machine used with the DVD would probably have problems, particularly with backward navigation links as it would attempt to link to the live site.

We could embed the pictures in the docs but it just means doing it all again.
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I have been thinking further about this and have been doing a bit of experimentation, early days yet but see my post in the admin thread, there may be a workaround.
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Downloads are temporarily disabled. I am hoping to have them back up later today.
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Downloads are now re-enabled.

I have produced new transcripts with the images embedded within the texts as they are on the website version. These can be downloaded as a full package of the project. Transcripts of the original audio tapes are also available as a separate download as are all the images that are included within the threads.
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I'm confused. Your PM said you were still working on the download.... Is it mended or not?
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My PM was sent 24 hours ago Stanley in response to yours. I sorted it yesterday afternoon after work. Please see the download section and the admin thread for the LTP.
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I still miss the introductory music to the LTP. That played whenever we logged on to the project, on the old site.
Is there any way Ian,
that it can be uploaded again??
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Nice to see you posting Angus. Have a good Xmas!
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Unfortunately not Gus, there is no facility in the forum platform software and the LTP is ripped read only code so cannot be appended to without starting again.
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Thank God for that!
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I find it quite amazing that in the two and a half years since we relaunched the LTP and with over 2100 hits on the project. Apart from the initial tittle tattle regarding the odd teething problem, there hasn't been a single additional comment or question posted. Quite bizarre when some of the other threads have posts running into the tens of thousands. Mind you, I suppose it is a rather specialised read and folk would have to register to comment.
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The same will happen on Gutenberg or any of the other archive sites. People will just read or download and that's it. Main thing is that it is being spread all over the world and will live in the Cloud!
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Passed the 10,000 hits level although this will include bots visiting.
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And here's another one by the same chap. Can't get away from him. Some interesting pictures in there that keep cropping up in OG from time to time.
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Nice of you to comment P. I realise that it's ridiculous but in early 2008 I made the possibly arrogant decision that what I had inside my head was valuable and would be lost when I died so I decided to partially empty my head into the pages of books so that some of my accumulated knowledge could be preserved. This all started earlier when I did the Lancashire Textile Project to preserve some of the memories of the textile workers. I decided that publishing down the normal route was too slow, it takes a year at least to go through the process of publishing by conventional means and this assumes they will accept the book in the first place. I short circuited all this by using Lulu.com and self publishing, or as some call it 'Vanity Publishing'! I included my life story for my kids so that they would know something about me. The ridiculous aspect of this is that I wrote and published 20 books in just over two years.....

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I never did any promotion, just gave all my kids a copy of each of them and put copies in the local libraries. News of them is still spreading slowly and there is a small but regular sale.
Thanks to a lot of help from Ian and others on the site we also vastly improved the LTP by embedding the pics in the text and I think we can be sure that at least a few copies have been downloaded. I once had word from a lady in NZ that she was doing her doctorate based on the LTP.... Never heard the outcome but I suspect there are others who have found it useful. Reliable Prime Source research is thin on the ground at times and I like to think that this is what I have preserved. One other small point.... too many academics are so jealous of their output they hedge it with copyright and other restrictions. Everything I have done is free to air. I don't believe you should try to make money from original research.
Thanks again P. Nice to be noticed!!
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PanBiker wrote: 20 Aug 2017, 16:38 Passed the 10,000 hits level although this will include bots visiting.
This was on 20th August

Now 12052, somehow I think that this count is somewhat skewed!
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Could well be but from the feedback I am getting more and more people are aware of it.
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I've had some odd conversations in libraries when folk have popped in looking for ancestors - particulary in Padiham and Clitheroe - is it worth doing a leaflet and mail out to lancashire libraries as the desk staff and volunteers are not always aware of the LTP and OGFB websites.
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I'm all for it. Why not do it yourself?
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I think it might be useful, rather than having some intro information in the download to have a clearer definition of the scope and areas covered in the LTP for casual browsers on the board topic here somewhere, as in what the objectives were and what 'result's were covered.
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Anyone who visits the LTP will see all you ask at the entry to the project in LTP Introductions and Documents
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