WE ARE WHAT WE EAT

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Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT

Post by Stanley » 02 Mar 2020, 03:02

Couldn't agree more David. We still have a few 'traditional' shops but as you say, many have bitten the dust. My pet hate is fast food shops.....
I remember the furore about unregulated food. Given a choice between the risks of eating WI cakes and jam and Deliveroo or Just Eat guess which I would go for? (Incidentally they have some of the dirtiest kitchens in the UK)
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Post by Tizer » 02 Mar 2020, 11:25

The local WI branches share a shop here in the centre of Taunton and it's very popular. Sadly, the branches are finding it difficult to attract young members. I guess they feel they can learn everything on YouTube these days and they socialise online rather than in clubs or societies. When I was working I was a professional and active attending member of several societies for chemistry, food science, brewing but they were all seeing a declining membership.

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Post by Stanley » 03 Mar 2020, 03:45

A touch of the herd mentality in many cases I reckon Tiz.
I have this perhaps deluded faith in the value of cooking fresh food at home as an aid to having a good immune system. I have no evidence but it would be interesting to see a study on the correlation between processed foods and home cooked when it comes to immune systems, allergies etc.
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`MPs urge UK ban on chlorinated chicken and hormone-fed beef' LINK

It's essential that we ban chlorinated chicken and hormone-fed beef now that we won't have the EU protection from these US products. As well as any concerns about harmful residues, both practices are bad for animal welfare and/or food hygiene. US farmers raise chickens under much worse conditions than do European farmers because they know the chlorination will kill off any bacterial infections. European farmers have to avoid these infections by ensuring good welfare conditions on their farms. Growth hormones used with cattle can remain as chemical residues in meat and they are only used to boost profits by making cattle grow faster than normal. They're not essential.

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Post by Stanley » 14 May 2020, 03:22

Very true Tiz. Even my mate who is a GP in Minnesota got caught out. He developed a sore nipple and it was Mastitis. Turned out that his wife didn't realise she should avoid the milk that contained hormones. He educated her, she changed her shopping habits and the mastitis receded.
The point about lower rearing standards is well made. The last thing we need is the equivalent of the feed lots they operate over there or any of the products which emerge from them.
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Post by Tizer » 14 May 2020, 10:03

You mentioned vitamin D the other day. I hope you heard yesterday's More or Less programme where they looked at whether it might help protect against covid-19? There are some claims that it can but they could easily be explained by other factors because people with low vitamin D levels probably have other things wrong with them. They concluded that it doesn't warrant advising people to take supplements but there is no harm done if you do take them. LINK

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Post by Stanley » 15 May 2020, 02:13

I heard the programme and agreed with their verdict Tiz. It got me through the war and it's natural so I'll trust my Cod Liver Oil.
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Post by Stanley » 31 May 2020, 05:14

THIS Caught my attention this morning after I heard a piece on World Service.
"Having studied appetite in animals over two decades, and transforming the science of nutrition with their findings, Professors David Raubenheimer and Stephen Simpson from the University of Sydney’s Charles Perkins Centre and School of Life and Environmental Sciences are leaders in the field of nutritional ecology and obesity.
Their new book Eat Like The Animals reveals the reasons a baboon, a cat and a locust instinctively know exactly what to eat for balanced nutrition, and yet we humans can’t seem to figure it out.

This of course reinforces my own beliefs about diet and nutrition, and in particular micro-nutrients and trace elements. These are all degraded by processing and so the sensible thing is to stay as close to natural foods as possible particularly raw 'wild' foods like nuts and fruit.
I may have to buy this book!
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Post by Stanley » 31 May 2020, 11:53

Later on a related subject. 'The Food Programme' concentrates on eating wild meat, the association with zoonotic disease (LINK) and also the same phenomenon in domestic animals. (I didn't know that measles originated in cattle).
In passing they touch on how smallpox and measles helped Europeans to colonise the Americas. (Influenza also in other cultures) A very interesting programme.
It struck me while listening to it that sea-caught fish are wild meat.
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Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT

Post by Whyperion » 01 Jun 2020, 00:30

Tizer wrote:
13 May 2020, 08:41
`MPs urge UK ban on chlorinated chicken and hormone-fed beef' LINK

It's essential that we ban chlorinated chicken and hormone-fed beef now that we won't have the EU protection from these US products. As well as any concerns about harmful residues, both practices are bad for animal welfare and/or food hygiene. US farmers raise chickens under much worse conditions than do European farmers because they know the chlorination will kill off any bacterial infections. European farmers have to avoid these infections by ensuring good welfare conditions on their farms. Growth hormones used with cattle can remain as chemical residues in meat and they are only used to boost profits by making cattle grow faster than normal. They're not essential.
Was not one of the countryfile/farming programmes recently on telly mentioned an animal growth hormone as part of feeding(in the UK) and just took t as normal and unquestioned or did I mis-hear

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