COMPUTERS, THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY

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COMPUTERS, THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY

Post by Stanley » 25 Jan 2012, 04:37

This was always well subscribed, perhaps it could include the old 'Kicking the Windows Habit'. Any word yet on the Orange upgrade promised in October 2011?
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Post by Callunna » 25 Jan 2012, 09:13

Just a small point - “ecstasy” is spelled wrong in the subject title, which probably only matters to anally retentive people like myself but I just had to mention it...

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Post by Pluggy » 25 Jan 2012, 09:17

According to 'Sam Knows' Barlick's 21CN upgrade has been put back to the end of March 2012.........
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Post by Pluggy » 25 Jan 2012, 09:30

Orange no longer appear as an LLU, so it not just Barlick that lost out, its every non 21CN exchange in the country.
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Post by Stanley » 25 Jan 2012, 09:42

Well at least I tried. It let me correct it on this page, don't know whether it will work....
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Post by Pluggy » 25 Jan 2012, 09:48

I corrected them Stanley. Must keep Calluna Happy :lol: I ran into her on the way to the bank yesterday.
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Pluggy wrote:I corrected them Stanley. Must keep Calluna Happy :lol: I ran into her on the way to the bank yesterday.
Who came off worst?

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Post by Callunna » 25 Jan 2012, 11:22

I thought that!
He had to swerve several times before he hit me... :o

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Post by Tizer » 25 Jan 2012, 11:31

I hope it was a pedestrian incident and not a road traffic accident in the making!

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Post by Stanley » 26 Jan 2012, 06:54

I had exactly the same image in mind. Nice because I think I detect banter creeping back in as we all become more used to the new format, less stress, more leg-pulling. (I even used a smiley... Is this progress?)
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Stanley wrote:(I even used a smiley... Is this progress?)
Or is it that those herbs in your front garden are not the innocent kitchen varieties that we believe!?

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Post by Stanley » 26 Jan 2012, 14:28

Can't be, they have all died back. Fumes from stove?
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Post by Big Kev » 27 Jan 2012, 13:02

A Linux question for Pluggy.

I have a Compaq Presario V5000 Laptop with Ubuntu 11.04 on it and can't get the S-Video output to work. Video card is ATI Technologies Inc Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE). It uses the open source video driver that came with Ubuntu 11.04

I'd be grateful for any assistance. :grin:
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Post by Tizer » 01 Feb 2012, 20:23

Kev, in the absence of Pluggy have you tried searching the Ubuntu forums (http://ubuntuforums.org)

A question for those of you on Firefox. I'm using Firefox 9.0.1 on Ubuntu Linux and there was a big update to it a few days ago. Since then, when we connect to what should be secure web pages we no longer get the padlock symbol on the Firefox toolbar. There is a symbol in the page itself but this could be false. Anyone else had this problem on Windows or Linux?

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Post by PanBiker » 01 Feb 2012, 20:56

Tizer wrote: A question for those of you on Firefox. I'm using Firefox 9.0.1 on Ubuntu Linux and there was a big update to it a few days ago. Since then, when we connect to what should be secure web pages we no longer get the padlock symbol on the Firefox toolbar. There is a symbol in the page itself but this could be false. Anyone else had this problem on Windows or Linux?
Tiz, I use FF so I have just done a test to see what happens. I am running Windows XP SP3 on my laptop which had FF 9.0.1.
I logged onto the National Lottery site and into my user account and it gave me a "yale key" symbol in the URL header as normal. I clicked on Help and About Firefox to double check my version and it advised me that another update was available. I downloaded and applied. This has taken my version up to 10.0 and FF reports that it is "up to date". I rechecked the National Lottery site on my secure login and it still displays the security icon at the front of the URL header. A Key with the first bit of the address in green.
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Post by Pluggy » 01 Feb 2012, 22:51

Big Kev wrote:A Linux question for Pluggy.

I have a Compaq Presario V5000 Laptop with Ubuntu 11.04 on it and can't get the S-Video output to work. Video card is ATI Technologies Inc Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE). It uses the open source video driver that came with Ubuntu 11.04

I'd be grateful for any assistance. :grin:
Sometimes some of the more obscure parts of hardware aren't covered by the linux drivers. This can be for a variety of reasons, no documentation or support from the manufacturer is common. The Radeon driver works OK through the laptop screen, but you can't get an output from the s-video port I take is the problem ?. Linux works fine on the majority of hardware but is often lacking in the 'very new, very old or very rare categories'. I suspect the s-video port on your laptop is one of the latter. (none of the 4 laptops I have to hand have an s-video output), I can't suggest a solution, I'm sorry.
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Tizer wrote:Kev, in the absence of Pluggy have you tried searching the Ubuntu forums (http://ubuntuforums.org)

A question for those of you on Firefox. I'm using Firefox 9.0.1 on Ubuntu Linux and there was a big update to it a few days ago. Since then, when we connect to what should be secure web pages we no longer get the padlock symbol on the Firefox toolbar. There is a symbol in the page itself but this could be false. Anyone else had this problem on Windows or Linux?
They've done away with it on later versions, secure sites with a correct certificate show green in the URL box as in the example below.

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Post by Big Kev » 02 Feb 2012, 04:12

Pluggy wrote:
Big Kev wrote:A Linux question for Pluggy.

I have a Compaq Presario V5000 Laptop with Ubuntu 11.04 on it and can't get the S-Video output to work. Video card is ATI Technologies Inc Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE). It uses the open source video driver that came with Ubuntu 11.04

I'd be grateful for any assistance. :grin:
Sometimes some of the more obscure parts of hardware aren't covered by the linux drivers. This can be for a variety of reasons, no documentation or support from the manufacturer is common. The Radeon driver works OK through the laptop screen, but you can't get an output from the s-video port I take is the problem ?. Linux works fine on the majority of hardware but is often lacking in the 'very new, very old or very rare categories'. I suspect the s-video port on your laptop is one of the latter. (none of the 4 laptops I have to hand have an s-video output), I can't suggest a solution, I'm sorry.
No problemo. Thanks for the response. I'll check a few Ubuntu forums and see if anyone has got around it.
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Post by Stanley » 02 Feb 2012, 05:35

Re. the update to Firefox. I had a biggie a couple of days ago for my Ubuntu 64 bit OS and the only thing I have noticed is that my navigation bar has gone AWOL. The menu button isn't doing anything so I am working round it using the History tab until someone realises and posts a fix. This is generally what happens. No other issues but I only use it at very low level.
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Post by Stanley » 02 Feb 2012, 05:37

Correction to the above, it's not the navigation bar that's gone AWOL but the useful downward facing arrow that allowed you to put a list of previous pages up. It used to be next to the normal navigation arrows but has vanished.
Edit: Pure accident but I have found the way to do it, a left click on the navigation bar brings the list up. I suppose I should have known...... Being basically incompetent is a bugger at times.....
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Post by Tizer » 02 Feb 2012, 17:10

Stanley, I presume you mean right click on the navigation bar and then select `Customise' and drag the `History' button onto your bar. You can also use the right click to get a tick box for putting the tabs below the nav bar or above it.

Ian and Pluggy, thanks for the info about the Firefox security icon. We'll check for the green text when we log on to the bank site next. Just tried to log on to the Nationwide but it was taking ages and I gave up. It's always slow but was glacial just now. I wish the software people wouldn't change important things to do with security and not flag it up somewhere in big text when you next use the programme!

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Post by Pluggy » 02 Feb 2012, 22:34

Tizer, the main nationwide page is usually very slow. I keep the secure site url handy because its normally very quick direct.

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Post by Stanley » 03 Feb 2012, 05:50

Tiz, you're right, it should have been right click (these old farts.....) but I don't need to customise, the RIGHT click on the arrows brings up the original list and the thing I like about this route is that it doesn't reload the page so the topics stay in the same place. Makes it easier to work down the active list.
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Post by Tizer » 05 Feb 2012, 11:57

Pluggy, thanks for that Nationwide link, it's very fast and much better than the one that Mrs Tiz has been using. You've made her day! :cool4:

Ubuntu has installed Firefox 10 and I'm still finding odd things different. I sometimes use `Page Source' to see code in web pages and I'm sure it used to be under the View or Edit menu, but I had to search and found it under Tools | Web Developer. I used to have a Reload button for updating web pages but that's no longer available, so I'm using Ctrl R instead. Stanley, don't you use the History menu for links to recently closed pages? And Ctrl Shift T to open the most recently closed page.

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They moved the reload button as well Tiz........
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