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Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 08 Sep 2019, 03:26
by Stanley
Yes and I get a better rate. Not sure how it works.
Old Sparky in PE draws attention to problems at Hinkley point. Surprisingly it's mental illness on the site. The deadline looms there when the date set in the contract for the sister plant in France to be up and running is reached. It is still under construction and massively over budget. I wonder if the 'government' will notice?

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 08 Sep 2019, 06:24
by Big Kev
Stanley wrote: 08 Sep 2019, 03:26 Yes and I get a better rate. Not sure how it works.
Might be worth looking into, I currently pay 3.345p per KWh for gas and a 14.620p a day standing charge. For electric it's 14.550p per KWh with a 15.310p a day standing charge. Once a year £100 'credit' is added to the account for the DD discount. Is this comparable to your tariff?

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 08 Sep 2019, 06:29
by Stanley
God knows! And I'm not going to bother to find out Kev. I know, you think I'm mad but as I said before, different strokes....

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 08 Sep 2019, 08:54
by PanBiker
We pay a fixed rate at well Kev suggested by the supplier based on our usage stats. As you say makes it easy to budget, we are nicely in credit as we approach the heating seasons but by not too much which used to be the case when we were with British Gas. They once had to rebate us nearly £500 that we had overpaid. I would rather have that than the supplier. We pay £90 a month which seems to be just about right over the year to cater for seasonal variations.

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 08 Sep 2019, 11:10
by Big Kev
£91 a month here too Ian.

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 09 Sep 2019, 02:57
by Stanley
Guess what my average is over the year.... :biggrin2:

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 09 Sep 2019, 06:39
by Big Kev
I would imagine it's £90 a month

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 09 Sep 2019, 07:16
by Stanley
:good: (near enough, I haven't calculated an exact figure.)

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 09 Sep 2019, 11:47
by Tripps
Poacher turns gamekeeper. . . . :smile:

An independent survey of Mr Thompson's system showed even after 20 years the income from the panels would not cover the cost of the loan.
Barclays offered him some compensation but Mr Thompson said it was not enough.

PV Solar UK went into liquidation in 2017. Robert Skillen, who was the director of the firm when Mr Thompson bought his system, said Mr Thompson's panels would make him money.

Mr Skillen is now in business claiming to help people who have been missold solar panels. He did not want to be interviewed.

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 09 Sep 2019, 11:53
by plaques
As a customer of Co-Op energy I now find via a search on the web things have changed.

As part of the deal, the Co-op Energy brand will be retained and Octopus will take on ownership and responsibility for the management and supply of energy to the 300,000 plus customers currently supplied by Co-op Energy, Flow and GB Energy. ... Customers of GB Energy and Flow will now become Octopus Energy customers.29 Aug 2019.

Octopus continues to grow while others disappear.

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 09 Sep 2019, 12:08
by Tripps
plaques wrote: 09 Sep 2019, 11:53 Octopus continues to grow while others disappear.
I think it's called Capitalism. :smile: Competition drives out the inferior product.

On BBC moneybox (I think) it was said that there was a connection between those energy companies with the worst customer service records, and their disappearance from the market.

I'm with Octopus as many will know, and it hasn't been problem free - but they've dealt with them well, and overall I'm a satisfied customer. I think Ian is too, and I'm guessing he'd nationalise the whole thing in an instant. :smile:

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 10 Sep 2019, 03:01
by Stanley
David, every week in PE I read of examples of poachers turned gamekeepers in important government regulatory posts. A dodgy record doesn't seem to be any bar to preferment!

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 13 Sep 2019, 08:51
by Tizer
`Why your smart meter may not be so smart after all' LINK

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 14 Sep 2019, 04:19
by Stanley
I recognise the problems but speaking from personal experience my first generation meter is doing all I expect of it and I am content. I doubt if anyone will be rushing in to upgrade me!

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 14 Sep 2019, 05:05
by Big Kev
Tizer wrote: 13 Sep 2019, 08:51 `Why your smart meter may not be so smart after all' LINK
The software for the SMETS1 meters is being rolled out and has been a requirement since July. As with everything these things take time :-)

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 04 Oct 2019, 04:10
by Stanley
The September energy bill is in, £49.55.
Things are bad politically but some things still work. I expect to hear any day that my winter fuel payment is due, as I am over 80 years I get £300. A useful amount and I am grateful for it. Of course over the years the relative value has fallen due to inflation but it is still a big help.

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 04 Nov 2019, 12:01
by Tizer
`Woodhouse Colliery: First UK deep coal mine in decades to go ahead' LINK

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 04 Nov 2019, 23:47
by Whyperion
It's mainly for coking for steel production. Wonder what they do with the gas

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 05 Nov 2019, 02:54
by Stanley
The climate protesters are wrong to object to the mine and it is not a 'kick in the teeth'. If they just thought for a minute, as long as the coal is coked and used in the UK it replaces imports that are not mined under UK safety rules and carry the carbon burden of having been imported. In that case it's actually better for the climate. The culprit is actually making the steel.
Total energy bill for October is £82.65.

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 06 Nov 2019, 09:09
by PanBiker
Stanley wrote: 05 Nov 2019, 02:54 Total energy bill for October is £82.65.
Mine was £71.00 for the same period with Octopus.

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 06 Nov 2019, 11:58
by Tizer
Ours was £61. It used to be about £80 with EDF.

An update...
`Nuclear fusion is 'a question of when, not if'' LINK

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 06 Nov 2019, 13:25
by Big Kev
The estimated energy cost, at the new house, is £25 a month less than the current house, I'm only downsizing by one bedroom. We'll see how that goes. :-)

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 06 Nov 2019, 13:40
by Tripps
My Octopus numbers for October.

Actuals Gas and Electricity £69.47. Monthly direct debit £72.44.

So still adding a little to my plus balance. Not for much longer I'd guess. Still can't win the free roulette wheel spin though. :smile:

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 06 Nov 2019, 14:22
by Whyperion
PanBiker wrote: 06 Nov 2019, 09:09
Stanley wrote: 05 Nov 2019, 02:54 Total energy bill for October is £82.65.
Mine was £71.00 for the same period with Octopus.
With got £300 energy subsidy to some persons and a £120 disvcount to others it can be overall cheaper to stay with a higher priced company.wonder when the treasury will realise they are subsidising suppliers rather than consumers.

Re: ENERGY MATTERS

Posted: 07 Nov 2019, 11:18
by Tizer
Tripps wrote: 06 Nov 2019, 13:40 So still adding a little to my plus balance. Not for much longer I'd guess. Still can't win the free roulette wheel spin though. :smile:
The regulator has got a bit uneasy about the scale of customers' money being stashed by the energy companies and the now frequent collapse of the newer small ones. About 30 have gone into administration so far.