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Get on Your Bike!

Post by PanBiker » 07 Jul 2019, 13:57

First time back out on my bike for over twelve months. Major fail, didn't take long to find that my right heel runs into the bottom cassette!

During my post op neuro physio sessions they picked up that I had a weak ankle and slightly turned out right foot so took the opportunity with my total loss of muscle memory to retrain that. I thought I would be OK on the bike as the re-alignment has certainly succeeded when I walk. My right foot is a lot straighter than it was pre-op. Problem seems to be when I am just using the ball of my foot, (as in correct positioning on the peddle) my heel turns inwards and fouls on the bottom cassette, not good as it means I cannot put equal pressure on both peddles. A bit useless when you are on the incline and need to keep a constant cadence up. :sad:

I am going to try the non captive toe guides that I used on the coast to coast ride. I had to swap the peddles out to accommodate them as they are bolted to the front and needed peddles to suit. The ones I chose have a reasonable serrated grip on them so it may be enough to keep my foot in line. I don't particularly want to go to captive clips or cleated shoes and peddles to match.

Falling off is not really a good idea with a repaired skull so I am hoping for an easy fix. I always wear a helmet but that does not make me bullet proof. The bike will be ideal for building up both muscle in my right calf and overall stamina so I hope I can get back to regular use.
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Re: Get on Your Bike!

Post by Stanley » 08 Jul 2019, 01:47

You'll find a solution.
"fouls on the bottom cassette". What is a cassette on a bike?
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Post by plaques » 08 Jul 2019, 07:20

Can you remember when all ladies bikes came with a chain guard , a possible solution?

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Post by Stanley » 08 Jul 2019, 08:16

Yes, and I also remember the string net guards over the front of the rear wheel to prevent your skirt getting caught in the spokes....
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Post by PanBiker » 08 Jul 2019, 08:35

Bottom Cassette, modern term for the main drive gear set. Outer gear of three does have a built in plastic guard but it's not enclosed like the old chain guards were so my heel can still strike the top of that which is the problem as it tends to slow forward momentum and from a standing start can stop you dead which is how I fell off on the coast to coast.

The chain guards on the older bikes were for Sturmey Archer gear sets weren't they? Single front drive gear and the three gears in the rear wheel hub. Dérailleur sets are a bit of a different kettle of fish as they use lateral movement of the chain to traverse the gears on both front an rear cassettes. I have three on the front and six on the rear.
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Post by plaques » 08 Jul 2019, 09:20

Just unearthed in my garage a light weight aluminium top guard. It would need some additional plate and brackets pop riveting to it to protect your heal hitting other bits and pieces. I've been intending to throw it away for years. Its your's if you want it. My next official visit to Barlick is monday.22 july . Other arrangements can be made.

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Post by PanBiker » 08 Jul 2019, 10:58

Sounds interesting P. I will also have a look on the internet on the bike accessory vendors sites I have bookmarked to see if there is anything there that could be useful.

I was thinking of some sort of guard if the front toe guides don't work. I had them on when I fell off so maybe a combination of both might be the way forward.

Just checked on the bike and my heel actually runs onto the top of the metal shift mechanism for the front rings. This of course has full lateral movement across all three. Any guard would have to cover the outermost with clearance. The plastic chain guard is on the outer ring below the shift mechanism.
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Post by Stanley » 09 Jul 2019, 02:33

Good luck with it.....
The original chain guards were on bikes with a single gear wheel at each end and of course Sturmey Archer gears had that. The best ones had an oil bath for the chain......
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Post by PanBiker » 09 Jul 2019, 09:20

You can get them for double and triple ring systems. However, I don't think that would actually solve the problem. The chain isn't the issue, effectively the front change mechanism is flat on the top and sits above the outermost ring and moves inwards as you shift between the three. The guards I have seen on the internet shroud the chain only and so the mechanism would still be proud. I think the solution is going to be keeping my foot straight on the peddle when only using the ball of my foot rather than letting it drift and trying to compensate for the incorrect position. Cleated shoes and peddles to match would be the answer but I don't want to go there.
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Post by Stanley » 10 Jul 2019, 02:30

Have a word with the lads at Hope Engineering. They might come up with something for you.....
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Post by plaques » 10 Jul 2019, 07:08

PanBiker wrote:
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Cleated shoes and peddles to match would be the answer but I don't want to go there.
Some side restraint fitted to the peddle which could be hinged and sprung to move in unison with your foot position may help. I will have a quiet word with my pal Sean in Colne. Does a lot of cycling himself he may have come cross something that's on the market.

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Post by Stanley » 11 Jul 2019, 03:07

I know I am a boring old pedant but I have been biting my tongue for a few days now. Sorry lads but the correct spelling is 'pedal'.....
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:smile:
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Post by Stanley » 12 Jul 2019, 03:32

:good: (Sorry about that....)
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Post by plaques » 12 Jul 2019, 08:44

I spite of Stanley's pedallantic comment, I know there's no such word, I had a word with Sean (Colne) and he said he had never come across anything that was commercially available which may help you. Looking at the number of crank wheel and pedal designs if you're going to get anything at all its going to be a special. Hope engineering is a hope. Ref Stanley.

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Post by Stanley » 13 Jul 2019, 03:21

:good:
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