Knight Stainforth Here We Come

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Knight Stainforth Here We Come

Post by PanBiker » 13 Sep 2019, 11:32

Took the tent up Letcliffe for a first pitching prior to our trip up to Knight Stainforth.

Pitching took less than ten minutes:

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We only pegged the corners to stop it catching the breeze. About 20 depressions of the pump per beam to get it upright.

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We didn't bother with the rest of the pegging or any of the guy lines so it looks a bit saggy. The airbeams are about 3" diameter when inflated and as solid as conventional poles. The guys have convenient integral storage nets for storage without tangling when packing.

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The inner tent in this particular variant of the model is made from blackout material which will help in getting a bit of a lie in. :smile: You can see the zipped ingress for a power cable into the sleeping quarters at the lower right and the integral storage pockets at the left, there are more storage compartment at both sides of the inner tent.

The pitching will be quicker next time and the packing easier as we have managed to get it smaller than when we packed it last time on our failed deployment attempt when the pump broke.

I reckon this will do us just fine for the remainder of our camping jaunts. It's about three times bigger than our last tent.

I will put some more pictures up when we have pitched it properly when we get on site.

I can book online for Stainforth but I think we will call in tomorrow on our way back from supporting our Carla who is walking the Three Peaks with a few friends. We are meeting them with provisions and sustenance at Ribblehead when they will be the right side of Penyghent and the trek over Black Dub Moss, they will be about 8 or 9 miles into the 24 mile route with Whernside ahead, they should be there by about 10 to 10.30am if they are on track for the challenge of completing in less than 12 hours. Sally and I did it in 10 hours when we were a lot younger. I had to pull out at Ribblehead the last time I attempted the route as a fundraising challenge as I strained my knee coming off a ladder stile on the final approach to Ribblehead. Climbed them all individually many times since, Penyghent still my favourite though. :smile:
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Post by Stanley » 14 Sep 2019, 04:13

Looks very serviceable. Great advance on the ones I was used to.....
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Re: Knight Stainforth Here We Come

Post by PanBiker » 14 Sep 2019, 13:30

We did our support bit up at Ribblehead this morning for the 17 thirty something's doing the Three Peaks. All made it OK and we vended a choice of hot and cold drinks, water top up and cereal, choc bars, nuts and stuff as replenishment supplies. About 9 miles in with 15 miles and two more mountains to go. For some it's their first time and they have this challenge on their bucket lists. They arrived as expected at around 10.15 and were off again after a 15 or 20 minute break. There were hundreds doing the route in varying group sizes. One thing I noticed was that the route from Penyghent over to Ribblehead has been diverted somewhat from when I did it last. It exits out onto the road not far the other side of Selside leaving about a two mile stretch on the road! Coming off the moor it used to go straight on following the Pennine Way partly and then over Gods Bridge and straight on through the fields to Ribblehead, got to be easier on the feet the old way than the new! Anyway we saw them off towards the viaduct and on towards Whernside. They will all be tipping up later for a takeaway tea of choice to be consumed at the Bosom Friends Centre along with banter and a wind down.

We took the opportunity to call in at Knight Stainforth on the way back and book our pitch for a few days. End of season is approaching in about a month and we are out of holiday season so there is no problem of availability, we can arrive and pitch at any time tomorrow. The campsite looks a lot more modern and upmarket than the last time we camped there which from memory was for a weekend testing out the Coleman frame tent that we had just got to replace the one we lost on the Mull of Kintyre a couple of weeks before. Mind you, that was over 30 years ago! :smile:

When I was about 14 I nearly took my eye out with a section of detached fencing wire when I was exploring the far bank of the river when camping on this site as well. That was over 50 years ago and a very vivid memory of an emergency trip to the surgery in Settle to get sorted out. I will be more careful if retracing my steps on this visit. :extrawink:
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Post by PanBiker » 14 Sep 2019, 15:21

I was just thinking my previous camping trips to Stainforth have always been eventful. Nearly blinded by the fencing wire where I blinked at the right time. :good: The wire hit me in the eye and exited through my eyelid and tore it right across. I unhooked myself to get back to the tent, was with my brother and his girfriend, they ran me to the surgery to get sorted, ointment, patch and a tetanus jab. Had a belting shiner for a few weeks!

The Coleman trip was late July and we decided to climb Penyghent. Two thirds of the way to the top we had a flash snowstorm followed by lashing rain and a very stiff wind. We had all our walking gear including waterproofs so could ride it out with Carla and Dan in a sheep depression at the side of the path until it bated. Dozens of folk streamed off the top, many totally unequipped for a jaunt onto a mountain. Shorts, T shirts and flip flops or sandals for some of them, sodden and frozen with the wind chill. We had the top of the hill to ourselves after it had cleared. :smile:

I will be extra careful this time. :extrawink:
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Post by Stanley » 15 Sep 2019, 02:34

You know what I always say about wether and appropriate clothing...... You reaped the benefit.
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Re: Knight Stainforth Here We Come

Post by PanBiker » 19 Sep 2019, 09:20

Here we go, first outing up at Knight Stainforth and fully pitched.

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In the first picture you can see where the inflation valves are on the airbeams, that have their own covers fastened down by velcro.

Other side.

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Front living area, shows the side door from the inside, half window half mesh or you can fully open the side.

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The other side window has half mesh and half window as well but no door.

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You can see the carpet which is hard wearing fleece material on a groundsheet backing. This has a tendency to slip and I can see a modification is in order. The carpet is shaped to be a perfect fit for the front living area and is shaped with half circle cut outs that abut the bottom of the front two airbeams. These are solid and their heavy rip-stop casings are grounded at each side of the internal groundsheet and secured on 2" square velcro pads. I will modify the carpet with some brass eyelets at each side of the semicircle cut outs and then make up some shock cord (bungee) ties with sliding toggles to suit the eyelets. I can pass these around the airbeams and then use the toggles to tension, this will secure the four main corners of the carpet and should stop it sliding around

I though of using ready made up small bungee cable with hooks but as we are deploying at groundsheet level I though plastic toggle would be the safer option to maintain groundsheet integrity. I will get the same shock cord that is used on the main flysheet and it will come in handy for replacements there as well.

We had a nice three days on the site and it managed to stay dry all three days. Nights were cold once the sun went down and we were in bed by 8.30 every night. The internal sleeping area blackout worked well and we managed 12 hours sleep every night. The cold nights were accompanied by heavy dew and the tent was wet every morning. No sign of any water ingress although despite the ventilation built into the tent there was a build up of condensation. I doubt this will be a problem during the earlier summer months. We were plenty warm enough as we decided to take a feather duvet rather than our sleeping bags. We put a cover on the air-bed but in future this could also benefit by using a padded mattress cover as well to help smooth out some of the dimples!

The site itself is maintained to very high standard, relatively new toilet and shower block always kept clean. The site has been running now for over 90 years and still by the same family. It was the current two brothers (Chris and Paul's) grandfather that first offered his fields for Scottish Scouts to camp back in 1927 and it has been operating as a campsite ever since. Now diversified to accommodate tents, caravans, mobile homes and they also have 50 static holiday homes (all privately owned) and a cottage property on site for rent. Quite a bit of tree planting down by the river bank and the site is split by planted hedges that act as windbreaks. Security barrier entrance to the site operated by a key fob issued on registration or a numeric keypad for if you don't have the fob with you. Same system gives access to the toilets, shower and laundry block. There is children's play area on the site at the bottom of the top field more or less central to the site. Barriers are disabled between 11pm and 7am but there is a car park outside the barriers for use when they are down. CCTV is in use across the site which covers the different camping fields and touring areas and vehicular access routes for added security.

When I first visited 50 years ago the campsite was one or two large fields below Knight Stainforth Hall which was also the office for the site. Can't remember the toilet block but I think it was somewhere up at the top. The lads running it now have no knowledge as they were not born when I first camped there. It is now split into separate areas for grass pitches or hard standing (with or without electric hook up and water). The Static holiday homes are all in their own area as the need fully plumbed in facilities etc. Site has distributed free WiFi and a centrally monitored security system for the holiday homes which also all have a broadband internet connection available. Toilet and shower block is relatively new as already mentioned as is the site office, reception and "Knights Table" restaurant and cafe on the site. This is up at the entrance opposite the Hall. The family still maintain a working farm adjacent to the site as well. The Maudsley's have been farming in the Ribble Valley for six centuries, so you could say they are pretty well established!

We put our Bosom Friends trustee hats on and had a chat with Paul about and idea that the group are keen to get off the ground. We are hunting around for a suitable site to buy and maintain a holiday home that we can offer to folk that we are helping. A respite care sanctuary if you will. We have set one or two criteria in that it must be within 30 - 45 minutes drive away, as we are supporting some who may be quite vulnerable or at different stages of treatment we don't want the journey time to be too onerous. It needs to have the safety net as well of not being too far from anyone's medical support base. We would like to extend the facility not just to those that are undergoing treatment but their families and support rocks as well who in many cases are run ragged by the roles that they have been thrust into. We are looking to provide a little platform to step off the roller coaster from time to time, somewhere to get your head back together. That's the plan anyway, our younger trustees have other sites in mind also, we will visit a few and see what we can come up with. We had a nice chat with Paul who understood exactly where we were coming from as they supported their dad who had his own battle with cancer in later life. They appreciate the burden and strain that it can put on a family having to provide a caring role at the same time as keeping house and home together. He gave us some details and costings which we will be taking to our trustees meeting tonight.

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Re: Knight Stainforth Here We Come

Post by Stanley » 20 Sep 2019, 02:08

Sounds well organised Ian. That's a good idea about the respite home..... I wish you well with it.
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