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Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 04 Oct 2018, 09:20
by Tizer
No, and I couldn't find anything on google.

I often use the word perhaps but have never thought where it comes from. Collins shows it derived from 16th Century (presumably English, it doesn't specify a language), from per = by and happes = chance.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 05 Oct 2018, 02:15
by Stanley
Thinking back to Mrs Tiz's mother and the 'pokey hat'. I remembered that early versions of ice cream were called 'hokey pokey'.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 10:31
by Tizer
Tripps covered hokey pokey and ice cream recently in a post in this thread. See the link in his post.
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Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 13:36
by chinatyke
Tizer wrote:
04 Oct 2018, 09:20
No, and I couldn't find anything on google.

I often use the word perhaps but have never thought where it comes from. Collins shows it derived from 16th Century (presumably English, it doesn't specify a language), from per = by and happes = chance.
We still retain hap/happe in local dialect when we say happen, as in happen it will rain this afternoon.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 03:34
by Stanley
:good:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 12 Oct 2018, 05:07
by Cathy
Here's three new words I came across today, I know what they mean, do you?
Twiffler... Numpty... and Ombrifuge.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 12 Oct 2018, 06:10
by Stanley
No I don't Cathy, never come across them and I shan't look them up, all will become clear without that if I know the members!

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 12 Oct 2018, 06:16
by Wendyf
I've heard numpty used quite a lot to describe someone who does something stupid. It sounds quite affectionate doesn't It? No idea about the other two.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 12 Oct 2018, 06:19
by Stanley
I didn't read it well enough! I too have come across 'numpty' but like Wendy, no knowledge of the other two.
Is the wind rising with you Wendy?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 12 Oct 2018, 07:47
by Wendyf
It is Stanley but we are well sheltered from southerly winds.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 12 Oct 2018, 08:54
by Tizer
I assume the same meaning for numpty as the one Wendy describes. I had to look up the other two:
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The novel I'm reading is set in the late 1800s and I had to look up `dundrearies'.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 12 Oct 2018, 09:15
by Tripps
Numpty is a nice word - it's a sort of an insult, but still a bit 'cuddly' - you can use it and emerge with your nose still intact. . :smile: It's a favourite of Andrew Neil the master political interviewer.

Never heard of Obrifuge - but I have now!

Similar is febrifuge recalled from childhood, as a fever reducing medicine.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 12 Oct 2018, 09:18
by Cathy
Well that's that then I guess, no need to have fun explaining any of them

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 12 Oct 2018, 09:29
by Tizer
It would be interesting to know the situation in which you heard them used, Cathy, instead of us relying on the dictionary definition. They might mean something different in Australia! :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 12 Oct 2018, 09:38
by plaques
Tripps wrote:
12 Oct 2018, 09:15
Numpty is a nice word - it's a sort of an insult, but still a bit 'cuddly'
A bit like velleity?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 01:57
by Stanley
Never heard of that either!
I used 'slape' this morning, old word for slippy but it's years since I heard it used.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 16 Oct 2018, 08:21
by Tizer
Misogyny has now been joined by a new word in the news, misandry, for hatred of men.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 17 Oct 2018, 02:27
by Stanley
I heard that as well Tiz on Woman's Hour where they are discussing LGBT matters. First time I have heard it.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 17 Oct 2018, 09:44
by Tripps
Stanley wrote:
17 Oct 2018, 02:27
Woman's Hour where they are discussing LGBT matters.
Do keep up. :smile: From today's 'The Conservative Woman' blog -

Newsflash: the key challenges for the BBC, as identified by Stonewall, include ‘lack of LGBT visibility’ – as though that self-serving organisation would reach any other conclusion. The Beeb reports that employees who are LGBT (which is formally to be replaced by the more inclusive LGBTQ+) experience a ‘heteronormative culture, particularly around language in the workplace’; furthermore, ‘inclusive language, particularly around non-binary gender, isn’t always used, particularly by our third party suppliers’.

I love the word 'heteronormative' so 21st century. :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 17 Oct 2018, 15:52
by Tizer
I thought the G in LGBT was for people like me - until I found out it stood for Gay and not for Ginger-haired! :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 18 Oct 2018, 02:14
by Stanley
I'll stick to my woman's hour.... such a common sense programme...

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 20 Oct 2018, 03:38
by Stanley
Have we considered 'lish' meaning supple? It slipped out of my lips yesterday while climbing on and off examination couches. Is it common or local to Yorkshire?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 20 Oct 2018, 09:44
by Tizer
Stanley wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 02:14
I'll stick to my woman's hour.... such a common sense programme...
A science professor I knew well inherited a cottage on the Scillies and retired there. He then told us his best discovery was Woman's Hour! :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 21 Oct 2018, 02:59
by Stanley
I think it's one of the best things on the radio!
Anyone got any thoughts on 'lish'?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 21 Oct 2018, 09:51
by Tizer
None here.