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Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 23 Nov 2020, 20:16
by Tripps
We had a bit of fun with 'schadenfreude' recently. Now look what I stumbled across yesterday.

Epicaricacy noun.

definitions :- (rare) Rejoicing at or derivation of pleasure from the misfortunes of others.

Origin of epicaricacy
From Ancient Greek epí, (“upon”) + (khará, “joy”) + (kakós, “evil”).
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Side issue - does 'khara' meaning joy have any connection with anyone? I doubt it, but worth noting. :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 24 Nov 2020, 03:23
by Stanley
I did put the question to the family David and Kahara meaning joy was one of the opinions but there were others as well. I think we decided in the end that the majority opinion in the Kiragu Clan goes for joy!

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Here he is feeding chips to seagulls at weekend. I think joy fits, he never stops smiling!

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 04:40
by Stanley
I seem to be mining a seam of authors who feel they have to use obscure words to convey their meaning. I can't help wondering if there are actually people who use these words on a regular basis or are they just trying to impress us? To be honest I think it's the latter and a touch pretentious. I'm all for being stretched a bit but do I really have to know what 'thalassic' means?
[of or relating to smaller bodies of water, as seas and gulfs, as distinguished from large oceanic bodies.]

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 08:22
by plaques
Pluggy used the word 'Bleargh' for the title of his post. Didn't recognise it and looked it up.

bleargh - Urban Dictionarywww.urbandictionary.com ›

Top definition. bleargh. An exclamation used to emphasize the state of being ready to shoot yourself in the ass twice out of boredom and the ...

Pluggy I hope it was out of frustration rather than boredom.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 11:07
by Tizer
I heard someone say they were cross because something had gone wrong - as in annoyed, irritated. Why do we use `cross' this way? I looked in Collins and found that usage but no explanation why. The nearest I could find was `to cross swords'. I wonder if that's the origin of the usage?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 12:18
by Tripps
Stanley wrote: 25 Nov 2020, 04:40 I seem to be mining a seam of authors who feel they have to use obscure words to convey their meaning.
I sincerely hope you are speaking persiflagilistically there, and not referring to honourable members on this site. :laugh5:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 12:36
by Tripps
Stanley wrote: 24 Nov 2020, 03:23 Here he is feeding chips to seagulls at weekend.
Interesting subject. I drew attention to some research into this important matter back in 2016. Mentioned in 'trippssnipps' (google it) , Seagulls Fascinating - and valuable research. :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 26 Nov 2020, 04:26
by Stanley
"I sincerely hope you are speaking persiflagilistically there, and not referring to honourable members on this site"
Published authors only Sir!
I don't think K was doing research into gull behaviour as much as general research into the world around him. He must be a busy lad!

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 28 Nov 2020, 15:22
by Tripps
From Andrew Neil's blog -

The French National Assembly has approved a law banning discrimination based on a person's accent, calling the practice "a form of racism". Accent discrimination - glottophobie in French - now carries maximum penalty 3 years' imprisonment + fine of €45,000.

Can't wait for it to arrive here too - as it surely will - and be able to say -

Th'ast getten a nasty case of glottophobia theer owd lad. :laugh5:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 28 Nov 2020, 18:02
by plaques
:good:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 29 Nov 2020, 02:58
by Stanley
Nice to see comely language being used in the Fens.... Northern influence must be spreading!

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 29 Nov 2020, 10:21
by PanBiker
Oh, I shall have to consult my map for the naughty names around where Tripps lives. :extrawink:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 30 Nov 2020, 04:14
by Stanley
Go on...... I look forwards to it.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 30 Nov 2020, 09:32
by PanBiker
Well they have a few "bum" places, let me see. Six Mile Bottom, Trumplington, Upend Bottom, Papworth Everard, Cockburn Street and Rogers End. Nasty isn't too far away with Ugley for good measure, Witts End if you get too confused. :biggrin2:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 30 Nov 2020, 10:35
by Tripps
I was struggling with that request. You seem fineley tuned to the matter. :smile:

Thought of mentioning Six Mile Bottom near Newmarket, but Trumpington completely passed me by. I've just got used to it. Fond memories of the Baroness of that ilk - she of the House of Lords bi-digital gesture.


Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 01 Dec 2020, 03:54
by Stanley
Those links to the Baroness blew away ten minutes..... Always enjoyed listening to anything she had to say.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 04 Dec 2020, 10:54
by Tizer
Writing in the Bankers thread about some of those dodgy financial schemes brought an old word into my head - haven't heard it for ages, perhaps since I left the north. Swindle and swindler. The dictionary tells me it comes from an old German word, swinat, meaning to disappear. Very appropriate - disappearing money!

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 05 Dec 2020, 03:57
by Stanley
I liked this....
"Middle English swinden (“to languish, waste away”)."

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 07 Dec 2020, 05:39
by Stanley
A word attracted my attention yesterday; 'galore'. The meaning is 'in abundance' and it is usually used as an adjective in mo0dern speech.
I looked the etymology up and was surprised to find the origin was Irish. Fits in nicely with the title of the old film, 'Whisky Galore' based in the Hebrides.
"Since 1670s. From Irish go leor and Scottish Gaelic gu leòr, gu leòir (“enough, plenty”) (cf. Manx dy lhiooar) from Old Irish co, cu (“with”), from Proto-Celtic *kom (“with”), from Proto-Indo-European *ḱóm (“next to, at, with, along”) + Old Irish leor, dative of léir (“visible, perceptible, clear, distinct, clever, explicit, evident (older assiduous, earnest, careful, zealous)”). "

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 10 Dec 2020, 11:11
by Whyperion
Do we put acronyms here ? I can never work them out.

Reported on Elon Mus's latest rocket testing.

"Fuel header tank pressure was low during landing burn, causing touchdown velocity to be high & RUD," Mr Musk explained on Twitter.

"RUD" stands for "rapid unscheduled disassembly". A crash, in other words.

BBC.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 10 Dec 2020, 11:33
by Tizer
Urban Dictionary is concise: RUD - A euphemism popular in the military and aerospace fields, used in the place of "blowing up". We'll probably have an RUD Brexit soon!

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 11 Dec 2020, 04:12
by Stanley
No, it is already a SNAFU Brexit.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 11 Dec 2020, 05:35
by Cathy
Came across this word today.
Paraprosdokian.

Is it on your list Tripps?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 11 Dec 2020, 05:40
by Stanley
I had to look it up Cathy. Never come across it. (LINK)

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 11 Dec 2020, 09:56
by plaques
Didn't know it either, although I've always liked jokes that alter the whole meaning of the introductory part.