FORGOTTEN CORNERS

[Stanley]

1982. The 'Men's Shelter' was still in place on Letcliffe. It was a handy shelter with a view but was vandalised by kids to the point where nobody used it. Thanks lads.....

[PanBiker]

A handy public drinking fountain on the far end as well. When I asked about the possibility of putting Queen Victoria's Jubilee fountain back to its original usage, i.e. as a drinking fountain. I was immediately shut down for suggesting such a stupid thing by members of the LibDem Council. Apparently the H&S rules are a nightmare to get round with litigation worries on public health grounds! The fair city of Roma has over a thousand publicly accessible water sources fit for drinking. When we were there we used them a lot as it saved carting water bottles around. I wasn't aware of folk dropping like flies from imbibing either. Have we gone wrong somewhere?

[Stanley]

Same in the States Ian, very clever design of course, the jet is just strong enough to let you take lumps out of it when you press the button.

[PanBiker]

It was a white ceramic job set into the wall up Letcliffe and there was another but on a stand, at Victory Park. That one was on a stand near the steps in front of the pavilion a bit more like the one in your photo.

[Stanley]

Perhaps more profit in selling us bottles of water that cost more than milk!
I remember being amazed in 1980 when I saw a machine in a Californian supermarket car park selling large bottles of ice cold water. We are used to it now. One of the biggest con tricks of all time.
When I was a lad we called tap water 'Corporation Pop'.

[PanBiker]

A beneficial, for farmers addition that I have seen on some of the farming programs. To supplement the normal kind of eggs on the milk kit stand and an honesty box. Some farms are installing automatic milk vending machines, they can also be set to deliver other farm produce such as cheese etc. I reckon that's a good development. Apparently they are quite popular with folk.

[Stanley]

This image takes me back almost seventy years to milking in shippons. This is in summer, there is no bedding in the booses, in winter the cows were on bedding and when you opened the door of an old fashioned byre in the morning it was a lovely warm atmosphere and not smelly! Lots of people think that all the muck means a stink. Not so, the strongest smell in the byres I know is that from arable silage. This is a forgotten corner now.
(The pipe that runs above the stalls is the vacuum pipe which powered the milking units. This was, in its day, a modern building.)

[plaques]

Looking at a bit of global warming mechanism here. I'm told that more methane comes from burps rather than farts.

[Stanley]

So they say Ken. I can't say I noticed.
Having another look at the image I was wrong, this is the next improvement beyond individual buckets to each unit.



Like this. If you look at the image there is a second stainless steel pipe and this was direct to the dairy and instead of a bucket on the cluster there was just a rubber pipe to connect to the milk pipe to the dairy.



At one point from the mid 1920s onwards cows were milked in the field in 'bails' that were mobile units with stalls and a powered milking machine. They were thought to be more healthy and cleaner than shippons.

[Stanley]

I was going to submit the Sturmey Archer geared hub as a forgotten corner but found to my surprise that it it is still alive and well. Some good ideas can survive evidently....

[Stanley]

David Whipp's pic of the memorial seat at Yarlside for Pop Hill, a Barlick clogger who was one of the founders of the local Clarion Cycling Club, originally a Socialist organisation dedicated to distributing Blatchford's Clarion newspaper after W H Smith refused to handle it.

[PanBiker]

I used to stop at Pop Harry's on my way home from my bike rides around the Ribble Valley. Definitely not a forgotten corner to me.

[Stanley]

Yarlside had another connection for me. I picked the milk up for years from this milk stand at the farm gate. Redundant now of course.

[Stanley]

The watermill at Yarlside pre-dates Barlick Corn Mill as far as I can make out. By 1853 when this map was surveyed it was a ruin, almost certainly destroyed by fire as this was a common occurrence and close to the site there is a wall which has brick and stone in it that has obviously been subjected to high temperatures. In case you're wondering about brick in a 17th C structure in Bracewell remember that Bracewell Hall was built in brick and there is a field in Bracewell village called Kiln. You can still find the weir and walk the original mill race all the way to the mill site where there is a clue, a millstone under a thin layer of soil.....

[Stanley]

Notice that on this map Bracewell had a pub, The Dog Inn.
Later I think it became The Hopwood Arms.....

[Stanley]

An advert for the 'Country Club' that thrived at Bracewell Hall in the 1930s. A forgotten corner.

[Stanley]

Calf Hall Shed Company directors outside 'Crowtrees' Barrowford, the home of W H Atkinson the architect, in about 1895.
Left to right. Standing, Proctor Barrett, Harry Wilson, William Holdsworth, W H Atkinson (architect), Edward Smith, W P Brooks and John Horsfield. Seated. Leonard Holdsworth, Tom Dent, Johnson Edmondson and Greenwood Wilkinson.

[Stanley]

Calf Hall Shed Company Directors outside Butts Mill September 23rd 1948.
Left to right. Edward Wood, chairman and Managing Director. Moses Horsfield, cotton manufacturer. Richard Jacques, architect. Harold Duxbury. John Vernon Patrick, grocer. Norman M Barrett architect. Victor Hedges, secretary.

[Stanley]

The thing that strikes me about those two images is that In 1895 the directors kept their hats on but the directors in 1948 took theirs off. Also I interviewed Harold Duxbury and Victor Hedges for the LTP. Well worth reading their views, it will give you an insight into how industry works and also society because you will learn about 'The Forty Thieves'.

[Cathy]

Very observant Stanley, I didn’t notice about the hats.
What I noticed is that the clothing is more tailored in the second photo.

[Marilyn]

Richard Jacques hmmm...maybe a great great Uncle! Who knows.

[Stanley]

And look at the shoes, especially in 1948.....

[Stanley]

A different view of Wellhouse Mill in 1978. The stump of the chimney, B&Ps Wellhouse shop and The Laundry. The new boiler house and tin chimney on the end of the old engine house. Notice the infill of single story sheds. The gasworks in the background.

[Stanley]

Stanley Fisher on the shafting at Wellhouse Mill. A forgotten corner now but this is what power transmission looked like in the 19th Century mills.

[Stanley]

There's another forgotten corner in that picture. Notice that the pendant electric lamp has a spring in the pendant tube. This was to protect the filament from the vibration of the structure due to the shafting.