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The forgotten corner in this image of Church Street in about 1900 is St James church which was built supposedly as a school but under the Rev. Milner morphed into a Chapel of Ease to save townsfolk having the schlep down to Gill Church. It's status was so vague that at one point there was great unrest when it was found that it wasn't licensed for marriages and so theoretically all weddings conducted there were invalid. I don't know how that was resolved.
Another thing I don't know is why it was eventually demolished and the new Trinity Church built.
I've just realised that there is another forgotten corner, the market stalls at the far end of the street.
(Note the edge of the foundation of the Jubilee Fountain in the bottom left of the image. It was still in place at the top of Butts. Another forgotten corner.)
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Lifting steel into the new Yorkshire Bank construction in 1979. 40 years later we have an abandoned building that seems unsaleable. Banking is a forgotten corner and the building isn't suitable for anything else. The only thing I can think is that there is a connection between it and another forgotten corner.

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Bancroft Warehouse in 1977. I asked Sidney Nutter why we had so many boxes and even skeps that were marked as the property of mills long gone. I wanted to clear them out but he wouldn't let me as they were still on the books valued at the deposit price on them and if I destroyed them that would be a loss on the accounts.
In other words, though useless they had a notional value. I suspect this applies to the Yorkshire Bank building and that value is set high. They cannot sell at a lower price without it being a loss on the books.
Has anyone got a better theory?
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The Gas shop on Church Street where you could talk to a human about gas matters. This is a forgotten corner!!!
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Stanley wrote: 02 Dec 2021, 04:30 Banking is a forgotten corner and the building isn't suitable for anything else.
I agree with the first bit of your sentence Stanley but not the second. The former bank premises in Silsden was bought by a group of locals and turned into a pub, The Counting House, it's very popular and probably one of the busiest in the town now. :smile:
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PanBiker wrote: 03 Dec 2021, 10:20
Stanley wrote: 02 Dec 2021, 04:30 Banking is a forgotten corner and the building isn't suitable for anything else.
I agree with the first bit of your sentence Stanley but not the second. The former bank premises in Silsden was bought by a group of locals and turned into a pub, The Counting House, it's very popular and probably one of the busiest in the town now. :smile:
There was a programme on channel 4 the other week, George Clarke's something or other, and a couple bought and converted a bank into living accommodation.
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From the number that have closed, pubs are a forgotten corner as well today.
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Young Sid Demaine and Alwyn Simpson calling over the wall at Sid's smallholding in 1977. This was before Alwyn lost an eye when a thorn got in it while hedge-cutting.

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Alan and Alwyn Simpson in about 2012.
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This is the Demaine smallholding opposite Bancroft Mill. Originally it was a tannery.... Not many people know that. :biggrin2:
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Station Road bus shelter in 1979.
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You would have thought that the council would have had a shovel! :extrawink:
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I don't think I saw the accident happen, just came across it by accident.

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The bus shelter in summer 2004.
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Here's a forgotten corner. The entrance to the culvert at Gillians where the beck went into a brick lined culvert to Bancroft dam. Now the dam has been removed the rest of its trip into the course of the beck under the road is in a large concrete pipe. In the days when the mill was running John Plummer and I used to keep the screens clean. I wonder who does it now?
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Ouzledale Clough. Potentially the most valuable real estate in Barlick. At one time there was a proposal for a water park and small hydro-electric scheme but these have been forgotten now. Originally the site of the mill lodge for Mitchell's Mill, later renamed Clough and itself long gone.

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The view into the back of the weaving shed at Clough from roughly the same viewpoint as the last picture above. The 1932 flood burst through the back wall when the culvert was blocked with debris from upstream. This is a forgotten corner now but we would do well to remember it and be watchful.
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It's often hard finding a new forgotten corner. Have a look at THIS website that I tripped over this morning. Not Barlick but some interesting old photos of forgotten corners in London and well worth a furtle......
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Garages on the Parrock in 2014. These were a forgotten corner in more ways than one. If you dig into the Calf Hall Shed Company minute books you will find a lot about the Parrock and the difficulties in transferring titles of land because there were no records in the first place. Harold Duxbury told me that at one point he was collecting rents for these garages but didn't know who to send it to. I don't know how that was resolved. A similar circumstance pertained to the land between the mill and the path up behind the houses built on the Parrock. I suppose all these problems have been ironed out over the years but it was a vary untidy corner at one time if not forgotten.
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There is another forgotten corner connected with the CHSC. When they finally liquidated and paid out the shareholders there was a large number of single shares that didn't have a current address with them, over the years of partiple inheritance they had got distributed more and more widely. Harold Duxbury told me that Malcolm Sterratt, the solicitor on Church Street, was given the task of administering these. He said that many were still outstanding at that time. That's a long time ago and I suppose there is a legal mechanism for dealing with such matters. Like the garage and ground rents they became a forgotten corner.
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Following on the theme from Mick's pic of Barlick Station, Gus Brennan posted this on his Facebook page today.
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Lovely, I remember collecting the numbers of those pre war locos when I was train spotting at the end of the war in Stockport. I
From memory that's a Johnson 0-6-0 and they started building them in the late 19th century. The latest builds were in service until 1964 and they are recognised as the largest class of locos ever built in England.
Another thing that struck me was the early containers on the goods wagons parked on the far track. At larger stations they were lifted off and dropped on wagon flats for delivery. Most likely for cloth and they would be loaded on the rail wagon in the sidings here because I don't think Barlick had the facilities for handling them.
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I like that you can see both Rainhall Road and Rook Street bridges. There was certainly a lot of backfill once they took the line out, I wonder where it come from.
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I spent a lot of time in Scotland when I was driving for Drinkalls and really enjoyed the contact with the Scots Farmers. I learned a lot from them and one was the fact that wherever possible, they tried to go into the new Year debt free. I thought of that the other day when I posted my monthly cheque to the bank's card services and reflected on how lucky I was to be able to do this. For many families this is a forgotten corner and from the look of things the New Year is going to drag many more into the debt trap.
This is the consequence of the way our financial systems operate today. In the end it has to be self defeating but this hasn't dawned on the wealthy yet. It is a dark forgotten corner and I hate the fact that it exists.
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The old sidings in 1982 after reclamation but before Cravenside was built or the trees had grown.

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Almost the same scene today.....
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Ken's image of the Weaver's Triangle at Burnley. Yes, there really were that many chimneys!

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I did this pic looking down into Oldham in 1979.
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Stanley, is that a natural hillside on the right hand side of your Oldham photo or a spoil heap? The modern houses tucked into that corner have what look to be outside toilets, surely not....they must be sheds (or huts as we would have called them).
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Natural hillside Wendy. The horizontal lines could be sledge roads, there was a lot of quarrying done in these hills.
I'd say most likely garden sheds...
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