DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
We had a bit of fun with 'schadenfreude' recently. Now look what I stumbled across yesterday.
Epicaricacy noun.
definitions :- (rare) Rejoicing at or derivation of pleasure from the misfortunes of others.
Origin of epicaricacy
From Ancient Greek epí, (“upon”) + (khará, “joy”) + (kakós, “evil”).
*********************************
Side issue - does 'khara' meaning joy have any connection with anyone? I doubt it, but worth noting.
Epicaricacy noun.
definitions :- (rare) Rejoicing at or derivation of pleasure from the misfortunes of others.
Origin of epicaricacy
From Ancient Greek epí, (“upon”) + (khará, “joy”) + (kakós, “evil”).
*********************************
Side issue - does 'khara' meaning joy have any connection with anyone? I doubt it, but worth noting.
Born to be mild
Sapere Aude
Ego Lego
Preferred pronouns - Thou, Thee, Thy, Thine
My non-working days are Monday - Sunday
Sapere Aude
Ego Lego
Preferred pronouns - Thou, Thee, Thy, Thine
My non-working days are Monday - Sunday
- Stanley
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 91269
- Joined: 23 Jan 2012, 12:01
- Location: Barnoldswick. Nearer to Heaven than Gloria.
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
I did put the question to the family David and Kahara meaning joy was one of the opinions but there were others as well. I think we decided in the end that the majority opinion in the Kiragu Clan goes for joy!
Here he is feeding chips to seagulls at weekend. I think joy fits, he never stops smiling!
Here he is feeding chips to seagulls at weekend. I think joy fits, he never stops smiling!
Stanley Challenger Graham
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
- Stanley
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 91269
- Joined: 23 Jan 2012, 12:01
- Location: Barnoldswick. Nearer to Heaven than Gloria.
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
I seem to be mining a seam of authors who feel they have to use obscure words to convey their meaning. I can't help wondering if there are actually people who use these words on a regular basis or are they just trying to impress us? To be honest I think it's the latter and a touch pretentious. I'm all for being stretched a bit but do I really have to know what 'thalassic' means?
[of or relating to smaller bodies of water, as seas and gulfs, as distinguished from large oceanic bodies.]
[of or relating to smaller bodies of water, as seas and gulfs, as distinguished from large oceanic bodies.]
Stanley Challenger Graham
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
Pluggy used the word 'Bleargh' for the title of his post. Didn't recognise it and looked it up.
bleargh - Urban Dictionarywww.urbandictionary.com ›
Top definition. bleargh. An exclamation used to emphasize the state of being ready to shoot yourself in the ass twice out of boredom and the ...
Pluggy I hope it was out of frustration rather than boredom.
bleargh - Urban Dictionarywww.urbandictionary.com ›
Top definition. bleargh. An exclamation used to emphasize the state of being ready to shoot yourself in the ass twice out of boredom and the ...
Pluggy I hope it was out of frustration rather than boredom.
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
I heard someone say they were cross because something had gone wrong - as in annoyed, irritated. Why do we use `cross' this way? I looked in Collins and found that usage but no explanation why. The nearest I could find was `to cross swords'. I wonder if that's the origin of the usage?
Nullius in verba: On the word of no one (Motto of the Royal Society)
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
I sincerely hope you are speaking persiflagilistically there, and not referring to honourable members on this site.
Born to be mild
Sapere Aude
Ego Lego
Preferred pronouns - Thou, Thee, Thy, Thine
My non-working days are Monday - Sunday
Sapere Aude
Ego Lego
Preferred pronouns - Thou, Thee, Thy, Thine
My non-working days are Monday - Sunday
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
Interesting subject. I drew attention to some research into this important matter back in 2016. Mentioned in 'trippssnipps' (google it) , Seagulls Fascinating - and valuable research.
Born to be mild
Sapere Aude
Ego Lego
Preferred pronouns - Thou, Thee, Thy, Thine
My non-working days are Monday - Sunday
Sapere Aude
Ego Lego
Preferred pronouns - Thou, Thee, Thy, Thine
My non-working days are Monday - Sunday
- Stanley
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 91269
- Joined: 23 Jan 2012, 12:01
- Location: Barnoldswick. Nearer to Heaven than Gloria.
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
"I sincerely hope you are speaking persiflagilistically there, and not referring to honourable members on this site"
Published authors only Sir!
I don't think K was doing research into gull behaviour as much as general research into the world around him. He must be a busy lad!
Published authors only Sir!
I don't think K was doing research into gull behaviour as much as general research into the world around him. He must be a busy lad!
Stanley Challenger Graham
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
From Andrew Neil's blog -
The French National Assembly has approved a law banning discrimination based on a person's accent, calling the practice "a form of racism". Accent discrimination - glottophobie in French - now carries maximum penalty 3 years' imprisonment + fine of €45,000.
Can't wait for it to arrive here too - as it surely will - and be able to say -
Th'ast getten a nasty case of glottophobia theer owd lad.
The French National Assembly has approved a law banning discrimination based on a person's accent, calling the practice "a form of racism". Accent discrimination - glottophobie in French - now carries maximum penalty 3 years' imprisonment + fine of €45,000.
Can't wait for it to arrive here too - as it surely will - and be able to say -
Th'ast getten a nasty case of glottophobia theer owd lad.
Born to be mild
Sapere Aude
Ego Lego
Preferred pronouns - Thou, Thee, Thy, Thine
My non-working days are Monday - Sunday
Sapere Aude
Ego Lego
Preferred pronouns - Thou, Thee, Thy, Thine
My non-working days are Monday - Sunday
- Stanley
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 91269
- Joined: 23 Jan 2012, 12:01
- Location: Barnoldswick. Nearer to Heaven than Gloria.
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
Nice to see comely language being used in the Fens.... Northern influence must be spreading!
Stanley Challenger Graham
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
- PanBiker
- Site Administrator
- Posts: 16605
- Joined: 23 Jan 2012, 13:07
- Location: Barnoldswick - In the West Riding of Yorkshire, always was, always will be.
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
Oh, I shall have to consult my map for the naughty names around where Tripps lives.
Ian
- Stanley
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 91269
- Joined: 23 Jan 2012, 12:01
- Location: Barnoldswick. Nearer to Heaven than Gloria.
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
Go on...... I look forwards to it.
Stanley Challenger Graham
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
- PanBiker
- Site Administrator
- Posts: 16605
- Joined: 23 Jan 2012, 13:07
- Location: Barnoldswick - In the West Riding of Yorkshire, always was, always will be.
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
Well they have a few "bum" places, let me see. Six Mile Bottom, Trumplington, Upend Bottom, Papworth Everard, Cockburn Street and Rogers End. Nasty isn't too far away with Ugley for good measure, Witts End if you get too confused.
Ian
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
I was struggling with that request. You seem fineley tuned to the matter.
Thought of mentioning Six Mile Bottom near Newmarket, but Trumpington completely passed me by. I've just got used to it. Fond memories of the Baroness of that ilk - she of the House of Lords bi-digital gesture.
Thought of mentioning Six Mile Bottom near Newmarket, but Trumpington completely passed me by. I've just got used to it. Fond memories of the Baroness of that ilk - she of the House of Lords bi-digital gesture.
Born to be mild
Sapere Aude
Ego Lego
Preferred pronouns - Thou, Thee, Thy, Thine
My non-working days are Monday - Sunday
Sapere Aude
Ego Lego
Preferred pronouns - Thou, Thee, Thy, Thine
My non-working days are Monday - Sunday
- Stanley
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 91269
- Joined: 23 Jan 2012, 12:01
- Location: Barnoldswick. Nearer to Heaven than Gloria.
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
Those links to the Baroness blew away ten minutes..... Always enjoyed listening to anything she had to say.
Stanley Challenger Graham
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
Writing in the Bankers thread about some of those dodgy financial schemes brought an old word into my head - haven't heard it for ages, perhaps since I left the north. Swindle and swindler. The dictionary tells me it comes from an old German word, swinat, meaning to disappear. Very appropriate - disappearing money!
Nullius in verba: On the word of no one (Motto of the Royal Society)
- Stanley
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 91269
- Joined: 23 Jan 2012, 12:01
- Location: Barnoldswick. Nearer to Heaven than Gloria.
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
I liked this....
"Middle English swinden (“to languish, waste away”)."
"Middle English swinden (“to languish, waste away”)."
Stanley Challenger Graham
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
- Stanley
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 91269
- Joined: 23 Jan 2012, 12:01
- Location: Barnoldswick. Nearer to Heaven than Gloria.
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
A word attracted my attention yesterday; 'galore'. The meaning is 'in abundance' and it is usually used as an adjective in mo0dern speech.
I looked the etymology up and was surprised to find the origin was Irish. Fits in nicely with the title of the old film, 'Whisky Galore' based in the Hebrides.
"Since 1670s. From Irish go leor and Scottish Gaelic gu leòr, gu leòir (“enough, plenty”) (cf. Manx dy lhiooar) from Old Irish co, cu (“with”), from Proto-Celtic *kom (“with”), from Proto-Indo-European *ḱóm (“next to, at, with, along”) + Old Irish leor, dative of léir (“visible, perceptible, clear, distinct, clever, explicit, evident (older assiduous, earnest, careful, zealous)”). "
I looked the etymology up and was surprised to find the origin was Irish. Fits in nicely with the title of the old film, 'Whisky Galore' based in the Hebrides.
"Since 1670s. From Irish go leor and Scottish Gaelic gu leòr, gu leòir (“enough, plenty”) (cf. Manx dy lhiooar) from Old Irish co, cu (“with”), from Proto-Celtic *kom (“with”), from Proto-Indo-European *ḱóm (“next to, at, with, along”) + Old Irish leor, dative of léir (“visible, perceptible, clear, distinct, clever, explicit, evident (older assiduous, earnest, careful, zealous)”). "
Stanley Challenger Graham
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
- Whyperion
- Senior Member
- Posts: 3093
- Joined: 23 Jan 2012, 22:13
- Location: Stockport, after some time in Burnley , After leaving Barnoldswick , except when I am in London
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
Do we put acronyms here ? I can never work them out.
Reported on Elon Mus's latest rocket testing.
"Fuel header tank pressure was low during landing burn, causing touchdown velocity to be high & RUD," Mr Musk explained on Twitter.
"RUD" stands for "rapid unscheduled disassembly". A crash, in other words.
BBC.
Reported on Elon Mus's latest rocket testing.
"Fuel header tank pressure was low during landing burn, causing touchdown velocity to be high & RUD," Mr Musk explained on Twitter.
"RUD" stands for "rapid unscheduled disassembly". A crash, in other words.
BBC.
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
Urban Dictionary is concise: RUD - A euphemism popular in the military and aerospace fields, used in the place of "blowing up". We'll probably have an RUD Brexit soon!
Nullius in verba: On the word of no one (Motto of the Royal Society)
- Stanley
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 91269
- Joined: 23 Jan 2012, 12:01
- Location: Barnoldswick. Nearer to Heaven than Gloria.
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
No, it is already a SNAFU Brexit.
Stanley Challenger Graham
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
Came across this word today.
Paraprosdokian.
Is it on your list Tripps?
Paraprosdokian.
Is it on your list Tripps?
I know I'm in my own little world, but it's OK... they know me here.
- Stanley
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 91269
- Joined: 23 Jan 2012, 12:01
- Location: Barnoldswick. Nearer to Heaven than Gloria.
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
I had to look it up Cathy. Never come across it. (LINK)
Stanley Challenger Graham
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net
"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS
Didn't know it either, although I've always liked jokes that alter the whole meaning of the introductory part.