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Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 18 Aug 2012, 05:44
by Stanley
Funny how things come back to you. I was sat talking to Doc and mentioned the Manchester Road pics and the bloke's name came back to me. He is Garra Pickles (Garra is short for Garibaldi, a family name) His father and grandfather were common carriers and also had a good sideline selling buckets of water in the days before water mains. He lived in one of the cottages at the bottom of Park Avenue next to Rosie. The end cottage was demolished during the road widening. Daughter Margaret mailed me this morning to confirm the name, she remembered him from forty years ago. I've just remembered something else, Rosie had a long and totally innocent relationship with Cecil Southwell from West Marton. He used to come over every Saturday and they'd have a night out in Barlick. It was nice to see them enjoying each other so much even though they were both very old.

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Demolition of Wild's garage in 1980. Access was from Cobden Street but it backed onto Manchester Road.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 20 Aug 2012, 05:06
by Stanley
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Garage site later in 2004.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 06:07
by Stanley
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Monks House in 1984

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 22 Aug 2012, 04:32
by Stanley
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Monk House and Manchester Road in 1984.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 05:42
by Stanley
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Longfield Lane or Crowfoot Row in 1980.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 09:25
by Tripps
Why did people paint that lovely stone white, and spoil the look of the whole row? Reminds me of Jack Duckworth and his stone cladding which is the opposite but just as bad. :smile:

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 24 Aug 2012, 06:06
by Stanley
Main reason was the mistaken idea that it waterproofed the wall, biggest selling point of Snowcem. It did brighten things up! It spread like a rash as well, once one house was done it made the others look shabby and everyone piled in.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 25 Aug 2012, 05:11
by Stanley
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Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 26 Aug 2012, 05:44
by Stanley
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The clow which used to serve to empty Old Coates Mill dam in the bank of the beck in Victory Park. The dam was where the RR car park is now.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 27 Aug 2012, 04:47
by Stanley
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Newtown before 1900. Fascinating image and well worth studying. The thing that intrigues me is what are they looking at down Market Street?

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 27 Aug 2012, 04:51
by Stanley
I have a question. If you right click on the image the bottom iktem in the dialogue box is 'inspect element' and if you click it a menu comes up at the bottom of the page. Didn't muck about with it but what's it for and what can you do with it?

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 27 Aug 2012, 09:11
by Tizer
It's a tool for people who are designing web pages, whether commercially or for their own site. They can use it to view the `invisible' HTML code in the page instead of having to view the same page file in a text editor. Whyperion has also given an explanation on the Computers page:
http://www.oneguyfrombarlick.co.uk/view ... 688#p24688

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 27 Aug 2012, 10:49
by PanBiker
Stanley wrote:
Newtown before 1900. Fascinating image and well worth studying. The thing that intrigues me is what are they looking at down Market Street?
We need to do the same as we did with little lad with the ice cream by the lampost picture a few years ago. We know exactly where this was taken though, It's a good question. It is a fascinating image as you say. They could be queuing for the shop which is now Steve's butchers although I doubt it. It does look as if there is something going on as they are staggered all the way across the road. One thing I have noticed is that the gutter down the left hand side of the road, at a quick glance looks like the double yellow lines that are there now. The little lad just stepping on to the pavement looks as if he has a whip and top and the one walking up the middle of the road looks like a mill manager or at least someone who's on a mission! There some good advertising plaques in the shot. Can I also see a couple of police officers in the distance at the bottom at the junction with Church Street?

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 27 Aug 2012, 11:08
by Tizer
On the left edge of the photo, just above the Lovelace's Soap ads, the sign looks like it says `Ales' - was the building a pub or is it a beer ad?
I see a barber's pole on the right-hand edge.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 27 Aug 2012, 12:45
by PanBiker
I think the sign actually says ...... Dealer. The shop looks like it was a general store selling soap and lamp oil and the like possibly an ironmongers. Stanley may be able to confirm this in the trade directories. Definitely a barbers pole on the right, that shop is now our cobblers and leather goods store.
There's definitely something going on. The guy at the back of the group in the road is craning his neck to get a better view. It could be that the bloke at the front of that group with the white coat and apron is a butcher and could be from the shop that is still a butchers today. Trade directory again would be useful. Zooming in dispels my original thought of police officers at the bottom of the road.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 27 Aug 2012, 13:19
by Callunna
Can anyone see anything that resembles a milliner’s? One of my relatives called Tizzie Dent had a ladies hat shop on Newtown round about this time, I believe.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 27 Aug 2012, 17:12
by Whyperion
I thought this was one of the Francis Frith Postcards , which would either have been taken by him , or his organisation or for them by independent photographers, but it would be unusual for only one picture to be taken in one place , so there should be others ( not necessarily published ) in the collection , that may throw light on the the activity. Its not listed on the Frith website so could be another one poss newspaper one , I have seen the photo before ( on the old OGFB website ? )

From Geograph/ Dr Neil Clifton we get : Image

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 28 Aug 2012, 05:04
by Stanley
I think Ian is right and the word is dealer. The sets in the gutters would be installed before the setts, the road is still a dry macadam surface. The fact that the man has his shop apron on means it's not Sunday. The more you look and think, the more you see.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 29 Aug 2012, 04:15
by Stanley
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Newtown in 1982.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 04:24
by Stanley
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What was then the Occasion in 1983. One of Matt Hartley's fine buildings dating from just before the Great War. What always strikes me about this image is how uncluttered the street was. More is not better when it comes to street furniture!

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 06:57
by Nolic
The wide paving that went around the corner was great for roller skating on when I was a nipper.
This is another good example as to why we should always look to the tops of buildings as the architecture that is left is much nicer than we see at ground level. I used to look forward to going into the old education welfare offices on Nicholas Street in Burnley. They were right at the top of the building and had a lovely view of all the ornate tops of surrounding buildings. Nolic

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 13:51
by Bruff
I like that shot of Newtown and The Occasion above in 1983, not least as it brings back memories of what was a blazing summer. I'd returned after my first year at college and spent much of the summer showing my first girlfriend the delights of Barlick and surrounds - a particular favourite being a walk to The Cross Keys (and the bus back). It was reciprocated with my being shown the delights of Stockport. We're still very good friends - indeed I ended up marrying one of her best friends with whom she fixed me up via a blind date.


Richard Broughton

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 04:47
by Stanley
Richard, Stockport has a lot going for it for me as I was born there.

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Albert Road in 1973.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 13:52
by Big Kev
A rummage through the archives, on Stanley's Flying Machine, produced a nice little collection of pictures for a project I've been tasked with. I bareley scratched the surface. Thank you for letting me in... :grin:

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 20:16
by Travis
I must admit as being an Offcumden, I really do enjoy looking at these photos. I looked at Kevs link and saw for the first time the old Co-op. A lovely building, what was upstairs?
If it was like my hometown there would have been a ballroom, boardroom and reading rooms.