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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 23 Sep 2012, 07:14
by Nolic
Are they sacking needles? Nolic

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 23 Sep 2012, 07:50
by Gloria
That's a good one Nolic.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 23 Sep 2012, 08:21
by Bodger
I've riffled my mind on those, i may have used them on finishing of chiselled oil grooves on bearings etc.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 05:03
by Stanley
He's good isn't he, and he doesn't spoil it for others. Bodge has given you the clue and he's dead right. See if you can tease it out.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 08:34
by Bodger
Re the above, why did i have a piece of chalked/red leaded string in my tool box ?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 25 Sep 2012, 04:49
by Stanley
Better come clean. They are riffler files. Used for awkward corners and have needle points. The miracle is that the file makers can make them economically. There's a small book, Steel Files by Eric Simons. I got mine for £3 years ago but here's a LINK to one on Bookfinder for £27. Expensive but unique and still worth the money.
I use chalk to stop files ragging up on soft metals like aluminium.....

Closely related, what is it?

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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 25 Sep 2012, 08:32
by Bodger
The string / cord was used to mark out the spiral groove along the bearing area of a shaft, wind it around the shaft in a singe spiral then chisel groove along the line

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 25 Sep 2012, 08:41
by Bodger
I used to use cuttings from flexible sheets obtaind from the local mill, looked a bit like 1/2 " gun staples driven through a pad 2" x 4" tacked to a similar sized piece of wood, was there a file called Millenicut? memory tells me the cutting edge was curved,
))))))))))))))))), something like that

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 04:59
by Stanley
That was carding cloth for carding machines and yes it was sold with wooden backing for file cleaning. We used wide firm tape for winding round pipe to give a straight cut.
Yes, the Millenicut file does exist and can still be bought from Buck and Hickman (now there's an old name in tools!) but I have only ever seen straight cut ones. The feature was that the teeth were undercut with a radius and this was supposed to allow them to self-clean in use. The only file I have seen with curved teeth was a rasp used for horses hooves by farriers.

Now then, what's special about that wire brush?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 09:22
by Gloria
The bristle edge is not flat as in it wouldn't lay flat on a surface, so has it been used for the inside of a open pipe running away upwards in an arch. Sorry but don't know how to explain what I'm thinking. Something with a roll shape possibly the inside of a small boiler.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 09:52
by catgate
Stanley wrote:
Now then, what's special about that wire brush?
It belongs to Stanley.



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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 10:29
by Tizer
...I've got several tools with his name on them, Catty!
Is the wire brush special because of the metal from which its bristles are made, giving it unusual abrading properties?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 18:44
by Bodger
I thought the brush was used for cleaning files, hence my post re carding cloth!

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 20:52
by catgate
Tizer wrote:...I've got several tools with his name on them, Catty!
Proof that the old saying "It pays to advertise." is obviously true.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 04:07
by Stanley
The lads at Ellenroad used to have a sign up; 'Stanley, the best tool for the job!'
Bodge and Tiz have the answer between them, the salient feature being it's made of brass wire.
Gloria it's battered like that because of use.

Now then, try this one:

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If this isn't a tap for threading a hole to take a bolt, what is it?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 09:51
by Whyperion
For re cutting an existing worn thread ?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 12:39
by Gloria
Its' what we called a tap which we used to run through the stud holes (in horses shoes) before putting studs in.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 28 Sep 2012, 04:06
by Stanley
You're right Gloria but it's a very special one and I'm pushing for the exact use.
Were those tungsten tipped studs for use in frosty weather? I've seen them used and I think the farrier called them 'caulks'.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 28 Sep 2012, 08:13
by Gloria
You can use it for those Stanley, but we used it for jumping studs when showjumping on grass. We had loads of different sizes and shapes of studs to use depending on the going.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 29 Sep 2012, 05:00
by Stanley
Glo, I've only seen the ones used for heavy draught horses in cold weather. Another gripping device was a short bar welded across the front of the shoe.
No offers for the special tap?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 29 Sep 2012, 08:13
by Gloria
Ours was identical to that but it also had a bar across the top to form a T for grip. I have seen some which had stud shaped holes to use to tighten the studs making it dual purpose.
I have seen bars welded on the backs of shoes but that is normally done to raise the heel and take pressure of the back of the tendons, or to help with collapsed heels.
Stanley --- am I an honourary engineer now :wink:

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 01 Oct 2012, 04:47
by Stanley
Of course you are Glo! Anyone who has used a tap qualifies!
Time I put you out of your misery. The tap is a special for preparing worn stud holes for Helicoil inserts.
Try this one, very similar to one we have had before....
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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 01 Oct 2012, 21:04
by Big Kev
Stanley wrote:Of course you are Glo! Anyone who has used a tap qualifies!
Time I put you out of your misery. The tap is a special for preparing worn stud holes for Helicoil inserts.
Try this one, very similar to one we have had before....
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Glass tube cutter.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 02 Oct 2012, 03:32
by Stanley
Dead right Kev. Memory is working OK. I shall have a think...... Try this:

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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 02 Oct 2012, 07:11
by Big Kev
Stanley wrote:Dead right Kev. Memory is working OK. I shall have a think...... Try this:

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Bearing scrapers?