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Post by Stanley » 07 Nov 2018, 04:06

I thought of you yesterday Tiz when I came across the report on the Congo dam and meant to post but forgot. Not a cheerful prognosis, especially the destination for most of the power. Your link makes the same point.
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Post by Stanley » 08 Nov 2018, 07:07

THIS Guardian article is the latest news I can find on the Toshiba contract to build the Moorside Plant in Cumbria.
This morning we have confirmation that they have withdrawn from the contract and a government spokes person says that it is doubtful whether the scheme will go forward.
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Post by Tizer » 08 Nov 2018, 09:16

This the latest on the Toshiba story...
`Toshiba's UK withdrawal puts Cumbria nuclear plant in doubt' LINK

We are going to have one of these instead...
`Climate change: Bug covered 'bionic mushroom' generates clean energy' LINK

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Post by Stanley » 09 Nov 2018, 04:36

The 'bionic mushroom'. What a fascinating avenue of research! I wish them well.
I got one piece of good news yesterday (very welcome.....) A letter from the Pensions people to say my Winter Fuel Payment of £300 would be in my account within 2 weeks. Very reassuring......
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Post by Tripps » 10 Nov 2018, 10:27

It's coincidence time again.

I spoke to my son earlier in the week, and asked how his new company (hybrid) car was performing. "I haven't charged the battery up for over six months " was the surprising reply. "It only has a range of about thirty miles, and the cost to charge it is about the same as the fuel, so I just use the engine. I only got it because the 'benefit in kind' terms made it financially attractive".

This morning on BBC Radio Four news, was an item saying that most fleet users of these highly subsidised vehicles were doing exactly the same.

I think that's the law of unintended consequences. :smile:
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Post by Tizer » 10 Nov 2018, 12:12

Tripps wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 10:27
the cost to charge it is about the same as the fuel, so I just use the engine.
The consultancy that did the study said that the companies and drivers were paying out much more than they needed to by using petrol instead of electricity. :confused:

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Post by Stanley » 11 Nov 2018, 04:16

I see that the government are removing the original subsidy and replacing it with one that only applies to pure electrics and Hydrogen cells.
Damart vest is working well, the government should subsidise them as well!
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Post by Bodger » 13 Nov 2018, 08:34

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/201 ... l-science/

Tizer , is there any prospect in this, ?

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Post by Tizer » 13 Nov 2018, 11:47

The chemistry is well known and has been used in various ways to make fuels. Electricity splits water to release hydrogen and this is combined with carbon dioxide by heating in the presence of a catalyst. This yields hydrocarbons - chains of carbon atoms with two hydrogen atoms sprouting from each carbon (three at the end carbons). Petrol, diesel, jet fuel are all hydrocarbons, as are the feedstocks for plastics production. The technology is available to do this but the limiting factors are the economics and efficiency. Also the need for electricity will have to compete with increasing demand from electric cars. (I notice the article, published in June, says “We will need a trillion-dollar industry to keep warming below 2 degrees C." Things have moved on and we now know we've got to get below 1.5 degrees C.)

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Post by Pluggy » 13 Nov 2018, 17:51

Making fuel form the carbon dioxide in air is feasible but only with lots of zero carbon electricity. Its not very efficient. If you were making electricity from fossil fuel power stations it would be counter productive, producing much more CO2 than it removed. It needs cheap zero carbon electricity and lots of it. Running an electic car from the electricity is far, far more efficient than converting CO2 to fuel and running the car on the fuel.
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Post by Stanley » 14 Nov 2018, 04:07

My emissions are zero from my car........
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Post by Tizer » 16 Nov 2018, 09:22

Fusion development speeds up...
`How 'miniature suns' could provide cheap, clean energy' LINK

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Post by Stanley » 17 Nov 2018, 04:38

That's encouraging Tiz. I have always said that the long term saviour of the world could be successful harnessing of fusion. 40 years ago I saw laser generators big enough to drive a double decker bus through the case at Berkeley California. They were for surrounding the reaction and containing the process by laser bombardment. That seems to have been a dead end and electro magnetic force is favourite now. Good luck to them!
The thought does strike me that successful fusion could be achieved before Hinkley Point goes online as the biggest and most expensive white elephant in the world. Why aren't we abandoning this project as even wind power makes it hopelessly uneconomical?
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