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Post by Stanley » 26 May 2018, 04:13

I got a good response from my mate on migraine and Topiramate. He wasn't specific of course but the tenor of his reply was to try all the other avenues and regard Topiramate as a last port of call.
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Post by plaques » 12 Jun 2018, 07:56

I'm struggling to understand the logic behind the banning of cannabis derivatives for medical use. Link. Somehow we have moved back into the Victorian era where medicines should taste terrible and have loads of nasty side effects. Its appears to be OK to dispense beta blockers that result in raging nightmares but not something puts a smile on your face while it does its stuff. There may be a chance of some black market abuse but since the bad lads are growing this stuff in every cellar where they can fudge the meter and its perfectly acceptable for the moneyed people to buy as much coke as they like for recreational use the logic is even more perverse.

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Post by Marilyn » 12 Jun 2018, 08:26

Plaques...all modern pharmacy cures are just expensive "snake oil". Remember when cough mixture actually worked?!!!
I have refused to buy any cures from modern day chemists for years. Hubby still persists if he is desperate, but continues to cough all night. The contents are all artificial....avoid them at all costs...just cough your lungs out.
I wouldn't take Cannabis either, but I've never needed it. I respect that it provides considerable relief for some conditions and I can't see why it is frowned upon.

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Post by plaques » 12 Jun 2018, 11:45

Most medicines start off as some extract from a plant. Even where they are not artificially synthesized the dosage is repeatable and pure. They then have to go through accepted trials before they are released onto the market. Many of the 'off the shelf' remedies have not gone through these trials but can still give relief to some people but cannot claim the effect on their labels. I've always been a non-smoker but if whatever cannabis contains gives relief against certain conditions then its really up to the Doctors and the user to balance the pros and cons for their own wellbeing.

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Post by Tizer » 12 Jun 2018, 16:00

I googled the composition of Fisherman's Friend lozenges. The standard Original Extra Strong lozenges contain sugar, liquorice extract, menthol, eucalyptus oil, dextrin, tragacanth, and capsicum tincture. But the sugar-free versions contain sorbitol, aspartame, acesulfame K, vegetable-sourced sucralose and menthol. The first four ingredients are all low-calorie sweeteners four in one lozenge! :surprised:

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Post by Stanley » 13 Jun 2018, 02:25

Go back and read my Drugged to Death articles..... I agree with Maz about most of the high price patent remedies on the shelves at chemists these days but some are still original. One such oldie is Covonia Original Bronchial Balm, still has sugar in and tastes lovely. Does the job as well! I always have a bottle in the cupboard. Remember Kaolin and Morphine? Oh, and Dr Collis Brown for stomach upsets, I think they had to ban that because of the high levels of Chlorodyne.
Margaret isn't out of the wood yet but tells me her swelling is going down..... I reserve the right to be worried until it does.
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Post by Wendyf » 13 Jun 2018, 06:23

Back in February Col developed an irregular heart beat, not fast but a slow, strong thump which we learnt was an ectopic beat on the outside of the heart. We think a sudden change to drinking a large shot of very strong, fresh coffee could have been to blame! Anyway, he was sent to see a cardiologist who said it was very common and a range of tests showed that his heart is strong and healthy and that there was nothing to worry about.
A couple of weeks ago he went to a follow up appointment, having pretty much forgotten about the occasional extra beat and expecting to be signed off. He was reassured again that all was fine but the cardiologist decided to prescribe beta blockers and blood pressure tablets because of the "risk" of heart & kidney problems which go with diabetes.
Well, he took the beta blockers for three days and they turned a happy, healthy and fit man into a miserable wreck in that short time! He had no energy and wanted to crawl back into bed as soon as he got up, he couldn't do his normal exercises or walks without feeling exhausted, gained 1lb a day in weight and became constipated. Needless to say he stopped taking them and puts up with the now very occasional extra heart beats.
Colin is strong minded enough to question and make his own decisions about the medications he is prescribed, but so many people believe their lives are being saved by drugs which are making them ill.

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Post by Stanley » 13 Jun 2018, 06:46

A good reminder Wendy that it does no harm to question the doctors occasionally and do what I call taking a bet on the advantages of drugs if you have any doubts. I will resist until death (!) beta blockers and statins, if only for the simple reason that they seem to me to be popular because the doctors see advantages for the 'average patient' and thus recommend them to all. Once again, well done Col!
Did you see THIS report this morning which suggests that a systolic pressure of 130/140 which was seen as normal is now a risk factor. Once again it's an average and I shall not go into a decline with a reading this morning of 128/78 because there are other factors like diet and exercise and if the media is to be believed I am a lot better on these scores than most.
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Post by plaques » 13 Jun 2018, 07:22

Wendy tell Col not to worry. Ectopic beats are about the most common of heart problems. Most people report them as palpitations. Nothing to worry about unless your heart goes into overdrive for extended periods. Coffee, stimulants and high adrenaline, (over exertion). The Beta blockers tend to act like a choke round your neck stopping you getting oxygen into your lungs. Plus other nasty side affects. Excessive beating of the heart can cause damage to the blood resulting in strokes. Warfarin is their normal answer to this. Another nasty medicine. Keep calm and use your loaf about what you do and consume.
A point on blood pressures. mine is usually in the 120/60 range but the last checkups it was up at 150/75. both with the cardiac nurse. (young ladies shouldn't be allowed to take old folks blood pressure) and with the Doctor where I expected a long protracted discussion about Warfarin etc: Actually, the consultation went quite well. His closing words were "it'll probably drop back to normal when you get home" which it did!

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Post by Wendyf » 13 Jun 2018, 07:59

Any one who takes or is considering taking a statin should read this article by Zoe Harcombe.

http://www.zoeharcombe.com/2013/10/how- ... at-a-time/

I followed Stanley's link and read the newspaper article about the association between blood pressure in 50 year olds and dementia. This was from a study of 8000 civil servants and even the scientist leading the research is quoted as saying that the findings have no relevance to the general population. The media will have a field day!

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Post by plaques » 13 Jun 2018, 12:09

Some years ago I was identified, with possible millions of others, as having high Cholesterol.The solution Statins. Immediately the side affects kicked in, aches and pains in the legs, general tiredness and feeling run down. After some attempts of "try this one" followed by "this is new, try this", all with the same problems I finally kicked them into touch. Probably registered as a Luddite on my medical records. Years later, actually on my last visit, my cholesterol is just below the cutoff level. Over the years I've never changed my diet just got older. This looks like my cells are dying off naturally of old age reducing the cholesterol output. No point in accelerating cell death by taking statins just live long enough and let nature take its course.

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Post by Stanley » 14 Jun 2018, 03:22

P. I used to have white coat syndrome, all my surgery readings were higher than those done at home. I am not as variable these days but the doc always prefers the home readings to his in the surgery.
I agree with you about keeping calm..... I go by how I feel!
Thanks for that article on statins Wendy. It confirms me in my opinion, always nice!

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Employees must wash hands before returning to work.

And do not touch the mevalonate pathway!}
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Post by Stanley » 15 Jun 2018, 02:38

So they've seen sense and done it our way......
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Post by Wendyf » 15 Jun 2018, 05:43

Big Kev wrote:
14 Jun 2018, 21:33
Interesting https://www.diabetes.co.uk/new ... 134.html
I thought Colin was telling me porkies when he told me about that yesterday.

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Post by Stanley » 15 Jun 2018, 06:23

As if......!!
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Post by Stanley » 16 Jun 2018, 05:16

See THIS CBS report which demonstrates the dangers of private and outsourced medical services.
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Post by Stanley » 17 Jun 2018, 05:57

See THIS BBC report of what looks like good news for NHS funding. It all looks OK but as is the nature of these things we would do well to wait and see how and when it materialises. It is in the nature of these matters that the original encouraging news gets modified by the small print.
I am hopeful but not clapping hands just yet!
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Post by Big Kev » 17 Jun 2018, 08:23

"However, she (Teresa May) told the BBC's Andrew Marr Show the boost will be funded partly by a "Brexit dividend" available once the UK stops paying into the EU budget."

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Post by Stanley » 18 Jun 2018, 03:35

I share your doubts Kev. No mention of any dates apart from 2003..... A bit too early to start cheering. This has all the hallmarks of a Cunning Wheeze to wrong-foot the Remainers.
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Post by Stanley » 18 Jun 2018, 05:26

See THIS Telegraph article on the news that millennials are now on course for worse middle age health than their parents. This doesn't surprise me, I have banged on for years about the current insecurity in employment and drawn attention to the fact that many health care professionals refer to my age group as 'the last healthy generation' because of our general freedom from many of the so-called 'Western Diseases' such as allergies, ear problems and severe obesity. How did we manage things so badly?
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