Tizer wrote: ↑18 Aug 2019, 09:48
`Brexit Party MEP, Annunziata Rees-Mogg, does not think Mr Johnson's meetings with European leaders this week will change much... "I anticipate it attempting to drown the goose that lays the golden eggs".'
Probably a message from Angel Gabriel. We lesser mortals will not understand its meaning.
Annunziata is the Italian word for (feminine) Annunciation. It is generally understood to refer to the Virgin Mary, receiving the word of the Angel Gabriel that she is to bear the Christ child; that is, the Virgin Mary after the Annunciation.
I heard that and what grabbed me was the misquote of drown rather than kill.
Tiz, I think the metaphor can only be used by anyone deluded enough to believe that Brexit will be the door swinging open and allowing us to go forth into a bright new future. To follow P, a bit like reincarnation for the nation. Dream on Dearie!
I've already quoted this on Politics but thought it was worth preserving on this thread. "I’m not saying there wasn’t a democratic mandate for Brexit at the time. I’m just saying if I narrowly decided to order fish at a restaurant that was known for chicken, but said it was happy to offer fish, and so far I’ve been waiting three hours , and two chefs who promised to cook the fish quit, and the third one is promising to deliver the fish in the next five minutes whether it is cooked or not, or indeed still alive, and all the waiting staff have spent the last few hours arguing amongst themselves about whether I wanted battered cod, grilled salmon, jellied eels or dolphin kebabs, and if large parts of the restaurant appeared to be on fire but no one was paying any attention…"
Dr Martha Pass commenting on Brexit.
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Will Hobbs of Barclays' investment doesn't believe the outlook for the economy is as bad as people are saying it is but he adds this warning: `All economies are perfectly capable of starting a fight in an empty room'.
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Add the quote about two economists in one room:- “If you put two economists in a room, you get two opinions, unless one of them is Lord Keynes, in which case you get three opinions.”
Winston Churchill.
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When Churchill and Stalin were discussing the proposed Polish land allocation after the war Churchill said "Where there are two Poles there was one quarrel" Stalin capped this with "Where there was one Pole he would start to quarrel with himself through sheer boredom".
"A US trade deal that outsourced NHS accountable care organisations would be the final nail in the coffin of the NHS. Health secretary Matt Hancock has publicly stated that "an NHS deal is off the table". But given that he previously assured us that a no deal Brexit was off the table because it might kill patients, his word is worthless."
M.D. in the current Private Eye. A man who has a good track record and can be trusted.
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From President Trump - speaking from the The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave.
“Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing your companies HOME and making your products in the USA.”
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How to make friends and influence people. Just before you jet off to a G7 meeting do THIS... "France just put a digital tax on our great American technology companies. If anybody taxes them, it should be their home Country, the US," Mr Trump wrote on Twitter. "We will announce a substantial reciprocal action on Macron's foolishness shortly. I've always said American wine is better than French wine!"
Later he realised he was a teetotaller and said it was the look he liked.....
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Did you notice that in the Brazil-France exchanges over the burning of the Amazon rain forest Bolsanaro's son called Macron an `idiot'? The son was lined up to be Brazil's ambassador to the US but there has been some resistance in Brazil so I don't know what he is at the moment. When Trump heard about the proposal to make the son the US ambassador he said it was a great move.
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I have to agree with you David..... Record breaking match all round!
Reminds me of the old days, Look up Neville Cardus and his Manchester Guardian article, "And the joy bells rang in Pudsey". Written after Len Hutton scored 364 runs. Then follow that with the story about the village cricket match in 'England, Their England' by A G Macdonell. Shades of Empire!
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I can't find the exact quote, but though I know of Neville Cardus, I didn't know much detail.
Here's a Neville Cardusgreat article from the Yorkshire post.
I like this quote
‘Few,’ he said of him ‘absorbed the game – the Yorkshire game – into their systems, their minds, nerves and bloodstreams’. Every breath he took was for Yorkshire. ‘It was for him a way of living, a mission and also his religion’.
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Sorry to lower the tone but here is the chairman of the Melton Mowbray Pork Pie Association commenting on Boris's gaffe: `You've got the G7, you've got the Iran crisis, the Amazon burning, China and Russia, and all the rest of it, and up pops Boris with Melton Mowbray pork pie.'
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Have a look at this David. Good article on Len Hutton and it mentions the Moravian Church bells being rung 364 times in Pudsey. I still trust my memory about the Cardus article in the Manchester Guardian.
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Later. Just heard a McKinsey consultant say this on R4. "The only place I have never seen a McKinsey consultant is in organised crime but that's probably because it's not very organised."
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The Sun has reported that the Government would stop any Tory MP who rebels and votes to block a no-deal Brexit from standing for the party in a general election. But Philip Hammond has pointed out that `Eight current cabinet members have themselves defied the party whip this year by voting against Theresa May's Brexit deal'.
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I think this extract from the Telegraph sums things up nicely.
Game on.
We are finally here, the week that has been coming for the last three years. It could shape British politics, one way or another, for the next half a century depending which side comes out on top. The coming few days could split parties and topple a government. Sides are no longer defined by their political parties, only by whether they wish to Leave or Remain in the EU. If the Brexiteers come out on top we are likely to be out of the EU very soon; if the Remainers win there’s a good chance of Brexit never happening.
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What a way to run a railway.
In 1906 a committee of creditors asked Leonor F Loree to take charge of the Kansas City Southern Railroad. At the time it was considered no more than "two streaks of rust, its engines lost steam the men were disheartened and the stations were shacks." After Mr. Loree gave his initial inspection, in a speech in front of the financial community, he ended his professional and technical description of the railroad line by stating, "This is a helluva way to run a railroad".
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Tripps wrote: ↑01 Sep 2019, 20:38
Sides are no longer defined by their political parties, only by whether they wish to Leave or Remain in the EU.
I think that misses the fact that Leavers are now split into those wanting a deal and those preferring a quick no-deal Brexit. If the former come out on top then there would have to be an extension to Article 50.
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You are technically correct of course Tiz but David has the essence of it and I am with him. Lets keep it simple! (God knows there are enough complications already!)
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One of those booted out of the Tory party, Margot James, has publicly questioned the role played by Dominic Cummings, the PM's senior aide, in government policy. Raising the issue at PMQs, she urged Mr Johnson to bear in mind his predecessor Margaret Thatcher's famous adage that "advisers advise and ministers decide".
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